June 2, 2023

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And there's the White Lady. We
missed her. We missed her. Bro

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But it's been a it's been a
long time, honestly, it's been going

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on two months roughly since our last
podcast. Been that long, yeah,

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I mean WrestleMania. Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah, kind of crazy since

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we've been back, since things been
back, Man, we got a whole

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other new championship and on Monday Night
Raw. How do you feel about that?

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The belt design I think is a
plus. Oh yeah, I love

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the belt design, hate the rollout, but hey, hey, you can't

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ask. You can't always get everything
perfect, you know. So well,

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it's just interesting because you would have
thought that, I know a lot of

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early on speculations that Cody was gonna
get that belt instead, and this,

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this and this. But I think
they made the right call, you know,

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not to kind of jump ahead here, but you know, that was

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a fun opening match for the inaugural
World Heavyweight Championship. Seth rons got it?

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I mean you think it's a good
call. Bad call? Um,

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Any call that involves not putting it
on Cody is a great call, damn

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it. It's nothing against Cody.
It's just that with how everything's gone,

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it's like had they had him lose
that WrestleMania only to give him the consolation

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belt, oh man, that would
have that would have tore up all the

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good will that they have built with
Cody, because like after WrestleMania, everybody

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was talking like, oh, I
can't believe you had Coldy lost. Coldy's

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gonna lose. Um, He's gonna
lose. He's gonna lose the fans,

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he's gonna lose momentum. And it's
been completely the opposite. Like it's like

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they love him more than ever.
Oh best, you can't do no wrong.

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So it's like you might as just
keep this, try and roll until

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you take the belts, get him
those belts and take them off. Roman.

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Yeah, well I feel the same
way, man, I do.

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I feel the same way in terms
of like, so I went to the

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UM this the Sunday SmackDown or the
Sunday Sunday Superstar or something like that at

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the at the Hampton at the Hampton
Coliseum UM back on the first and uh,

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it was my niece's first pro wrestling
show first, like live live event

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and stuff, and she had a
great time. But I will say this,

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like so Cody Rhodes and Finn Balor
at a no rules um hardcore match

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to end the night and the and
the show. And let me tell you,

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like this guy, Cody, I'm
serious, he must have done like

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six laps around the ring after the
match to sign stuff and take picture and

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do all of the cookie cutter baby
baby stuff. And like it didn't feel

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like it was forced or nothing.
It felt truly like he was like,

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no, I want to be out
here for these folks, like and I

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respected that for sure, but we
left. Um, we got pretty close,

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honestly to seeing him, but it
was just getting to the point now

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where it was like if we don't
leave now, we're going to sit in

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two sixty four traffic for Yeah.
So it was just one of those deals.

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So we made the made the call. But had we stayed, I

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guarantee you we would have taken a
picture with him for sure. That's what's

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up. Yeah, he's just a
man of the people. Daddy is Daddy

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is. He is our hero,
he is our champion. Well, now

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the question is like, do you
want to wait until Mania for him?

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Or do you or wait until Mania
next year? Or do you put it

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wait un till Detroit? Honestly,
It all depends on It really still depends

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on if you're getting the Rock,
he thinks for Yeah, because if you

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don't, because let's say, okay, let's say let's say Cody beats him

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at SummerSlam, right, takes the
belt, sir h. The only next

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logical person to face him, like
in a big match would be the Rock.

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Yeah, so unless you're getting that
at forty, because if you don't

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get the Rock, I don't know
who else you get there unless you're going

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to somehow pull the trigger on him
versus Logan Paul or some shit like that.

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Eiven that I can't really or or
hell, unless you can get like

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an Austin out of retirement for one
more match, you can't like Other than

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that, it really ain't nobody else
on the roster that's been built up enough.

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Yeah, maybe Steph Rollins, but
I don't like, I don't really

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need to see Rollins and Rains at
Russell. Many would undoubtedly be good,

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but at this point we've seen it
so much it's like, all right,

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well right, and you can't do
you can't do gun through because it's hill

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right, Like, so I Cody'
is the logical match if that's going to

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be the end, and I think, like at that point, I think

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the way the story goes, you
have to get it to a point where

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the bloodline is over before he loses
the belts, because the whole point of

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Roman's reign is he's always had the
blood hind watching his back. See what

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you did there, right, And
we've always thought that even at Rustleman,

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and we thought, okay, well, Cody would be the one to beat

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him, when it's like, nah, Cody's just like everybody else. He

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just falls to the numbers game.
Well, we gotta get rid of the

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numbers game. Now, if you
get rid of it, you can take

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all this time, and they've already
been planting the seeds. Now just take

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that time to get rid of the
rest of the bloodline and then just do

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Cody Roman at Rustlemania, and then
he wins the titles and then boom we

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out of here. And the Roman
can take a break for a year if

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you want to. You can chill
for a year like he had to nothing

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because this point, yeah, I
mean, what the hell? But I

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will say that, I mean it's
a good segue into that because right now,

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one of the biggest storyline in WWE
is the USO is finally turning on

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Roman reins and it's all thanks to
that boy, Jimmy. Mhm, all

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people, And I tell you what, man, a brother's love like it's

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the it is. It was some
good acting, I'll tell you that much.

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It was good. Like Jay was
fearful. He was like, why

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would you do that? Like why
would you? Why? Why would you

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do that? You know? Oh
man, dude's I thought that was such

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good storytelling and cumulate the way that
it did. I was just like,

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oh man, like this is this
is on another level right because it finally

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brought the story is bringing the story
back now full circle because in the beginning,

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Jimmy didn't want to be part of
this, right he was, Yeah,

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he's out here rocking a Nobody's Bitch
T shirt like he did not want

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he did a rock with Roman backman, he's only really part of the bloodline

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for Jay so they can be a
team. So his allegiance has always been

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the Jay, not Roman. So
to see this now turning like all right,

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bet well, now you finally gave
me the reason up beat, I'm

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going to take it. I ain't
my brother, I'm gonna take this right,

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But now it eventually has to come
to now like Jay gotta finally see

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like him. Everybody you've been close
to has sittainly turned on Roman because they're

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sitting here and seeing how he is
and you're the only one sitting here like

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a batter wife, right, and
it's not clicking for you yet. But

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it's gonna be interesting to see where
they go next, because there's they could

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do Roman and solo versus the usos
that money in the bank, Yeah,

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they could. They could trip out
and do Jimmy versus Jay and be like,

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nah, go beat your brother up
Jimmy so bad he might do it.

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He that's the crazy though. You
could do solo versus Jimmy. I

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don't know. It's just it's gonna
be the interesting to see which way they

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go to think like if I beat
my brother, then I can save him,

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right, you know, right,
Like that's some old school type wrestling

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that's like it's like nineteen ninety like
late late nineties type shit right there,

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right show, So it's like I
would be I wouldn't mind that. That'd

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be probably my favorite one of the
storylines if we did it now. Ultimately,

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I do think it'd probably be Solo
going after the USO's first, just

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because he's always he's the enforcer,
right. Another thing that kind of shocked

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me to going back to that Hampton
show. He is over, like Solo,

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Skoa is over for being green like
this guy eat like people like him,

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people love him. I felt bad
for um oh goodness, who would

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he wrestle bro Oh no oh,
he wrestled Matt Riddle. He wrestled Matt

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Riddle, and he was more over
than Riddle. It riddles the face like

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you think there, you would have
thought they were both faces. I mean

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it was like that, like people
want to see the Samoan spike. I

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couldn't believe it. We love ourselves
some Solo, and I think and I

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think deep down, honestly people think
that. I think deep down people think

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that Yo Solo gonna be the one
that fuck roaming up for real for realm

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yeah, I think we as people, we were starting to feel that,

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like he just comes in, does
his job and just be like, hey,

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I's very I'm here that I'm just
here to spike people. That's it.

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That's just like Wardlow bro Oh,
don't get me starting on that,

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dude, there or have mercy.
But I'm glad he's doing better. I

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really am, because I was worried
for a second. Right, That's that's

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our future world champion eventually, right, um sadly? Yeah, yeah,

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you're right. Nah. Now let
me take that back. Nah, if

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I ever get the belt, like
so, you put it in enough years,

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they're gonna give you some kind of
championship. They're around for ten You

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think they're around in ten years?
Yeah? Oh yeah, especially since they're

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getting their second show, well third, so we got wait ten years,

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that's what it's gonna take by that
point, by that point where low come

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to n xt IF. Yeah.
But another thing too that I want to

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talk about is that the historic reign
of Bianca bell Air comes to a close

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in Saudi Arabia, of all places. Mhm. That's got to feel a

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little bit like salt in the wound, don't you think? You know?

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I honestly ain't man at it,
can't lose it in domestically. Nah,

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we could have we could have pulled
the trigger on this. We honestly,

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they should have pulled the trigg at
WrestleMania. M hmm, yeah, I

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honestly should. But the storyline trash, and if it was trash and it's

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andy real, it's still kind of
trash. But at least now they've defined

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who's the face and who's the heel. Right, Okay, yeah at first

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they didn't. Now we know Oscar's
the heel. But people are always gonna

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cheer her. Bro Yeah, it's
just because she's still this goofy ass heel

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that like, I think that's the
thing for me. She's still a little

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too goofy. And if she's gonna
be goofy like that, that's cool.

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But then I think, honestly,
she needs a manager. Yes, she

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needs somebody to talk to her to
make her he like. She needs a

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Don Callous. If she had a
Don Callous, she'd be money, right,

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Oh for sure. She can just
sit around and blow stuff and people's

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blow the mist in people's face and
take them in everything and that's all and

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she ain't got a talking nothing,
and they can make her to heal.

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Thinking about it, if she had
like a mister Fuji like and be oh

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match made in heavy, I don't
know on this that age you can have

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him mister Fuji because everybody to sit. But I just teleporting her back and

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mister fugie rom insulting people's face,
right, we're trying to win, that's

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the whole thing. Like, oh
wait a minute, damn it, where's

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the girl that was with Zihigh League? Where the girl the grandma is Joe?

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Oh my god, that would be
the greatest fashion ever. We need

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to bring her back to sit on
the throne and just send out Oscar whenever

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she wants to, and then Zili
could be the new bowler. Oh no,

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perfect, Oh my god, champion
royalty right there. Now we can't

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have it be tad team. But
then we got to find out the Chinese

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girl. Then fuck well, no, I take that back because I don't

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want to. I don't want to
get rid of Windy. Shoot, I'm

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loving the whole pillow sleeping shit like
h and she thick his head and she

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she thick Like I didn't realize Windy
is that thick? Yeah. We gotta

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keep winning as around as she is. Like, I didn't know I was

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unfamiliar, he said. And she
keeps it all in that onesie. You

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can't really tell you're on that shock
viber. It's like I was not familiar

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with your game. Yeah, I
was not familiar with her game. Man.

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Okay, now let me ask,
Okay, well, do you think

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what's the over under that Bianca gets
the title back before SummerSlam or after I'll

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take over? See? So I
was reading online a lot of there are

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a lot of rumors now that Bianca
Belair is gonna have a heel run.

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She tell you something. The heel
run for her is going to be one

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on the same scale as like a
Roman rains man. She's gonna her as

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a heel. If she can do
exactly what we think she can do and

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what she's capable of, it will
be unlike any heel ww you had because

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it'll just be so unique in that
she's just gonna be herself. I can't

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really explain it other than that.
Yeah, yeah, and I think like

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her, the matchups with her as
a heel are more treating. Sure,

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I just hate it. I just
hate it. Now it's a fucking brand

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split, so it's kind of limited. But yeah, they need to figure

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that out there. They're gonna run
her heel and figure that out because Baybay,

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the first baby face the poon that
she had, can't be Charlotte.

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It just can't. And and but
that's the problem with her being a heel,

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Like, if you're gonna have her
be a heel, you gotta one

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figure out what you're gonna do with
Charlotte because her aunt Charlotte can't be heals,

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right, Charlotte's a better heel.
And then so it's like and then,

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but then you can't have her be
a heel on the other brand because

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we is there, she's a better
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issue that I'm seeing now is that
Bianca moves merch like Bianca, you do,

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and so let me let me just
be frank, like, unless it's

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a character like a Roman Reigns for
example, they don't really heels don't normally

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move merch like that. You know, they're all they're in place to help

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baby faces sell merged. So it's
like Bianca with her money that she generates,

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it's hard to imagine a heel run
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from now it'd be a little different, but as it goes right now,

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like at the Hampton show, it
was she was the only woman wrestler with

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merch for Salem, you know,
like just seriously, like it was only

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it was her riddle we the ones
like that was about it. Oh,

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I think they had like another judgment
date and then a couple like left of

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a WrestleMania t shirts, but it
was like that was it slim pickings and

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stuff and the fact that she's one
of the ones. It just goes to

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show that, Yeah, she is
everything that she's supposed to be, which

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is a testament to her. I
think that's really cool. Yeah, so

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that's I'm so I will be I
don't I don't know. I can't see

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her being a heel just yet.
Yeah, just because I don't see where

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direction you're gonna go with her being
a heel on smack Down when most of

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your top people are heels, Like
you got her on the brand with Oscar

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who you just turned heel, Bailey
and Damage Control who just turned heel.

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Unless're gonna turn them baby face or
at least break them up up and make

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EO the baby face. Bailey can
continue being a heel, right, Yeah,

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I mean other than that, it's
like what you got Zelina and then

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you got what Charlotte, who are
both baby faces. I mean, it

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would be interesting to see a heel
Bianca versus a face Charlotte, But I

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don't think the fans gonna let us, let me let us have that one

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the way it should. They're gonna
sit here and boot the hell out of

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Charlotte, cheer the hell out of
Bianca and all the distance for nothing,

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right, Yeah, exactly, It'll
just be force fed. And that's not

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good for anybody. Right. Let
me ask you this though, was this

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good for everybody involved? The fact
that brock Lessner won in Saudi Arabia like

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technical submission versus Cody Rhodes kind of
backtrack, Yes, Cody had to lose,

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he had to lose, and if
he had, brock doesn't with a

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so called broken on come the fuck
on, like that's god, that's that's

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now. You like you're pretty much
invincible and you should just walk the smack

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down and just go smack Roman in
the whole bloodlight and then you can't be

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beat, right, there's no way, Like, So yeah, this I

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like how I did. It also
sets up that third match, right,

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so you can say that's a Summer
Slam real talk, you could, or

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unless you're gonna put Cody and money
in the bank, right, which now

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I'm thinking, now, I don't
do that. M hm. Hate,

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I hate to say it, but
don't do that. Because now it's going

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to be like he has to win
now once if you give if they give

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Cody money in the bank, he
has to win. I can't. Yeah,

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so let's not even put him in
the match. But at least we

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haven't get screwed. But you could. You could have him going there and

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get screwed. Brock comes, Brock
shows up and it beats the fun out

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of him again to take them out
the match. And now there's Rock Cody

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at Summer Slam. Yeah, you
know, literally have his fingertips on the

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case and then all of a sudden
hits and then it's boom, You're done.

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Yeah. I could ride with that
long La la Knight winning the money

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in the bank. I'm cool.
Yeah, well let me tell you what

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himber dominant one of them. Yeah, if Dominic wanted to be crazy,

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that would be if if he wanted
and they let them cash in and win.

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Oh, that would be amazing.
I think everybody would lose their mind

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if that happen. Yes, that's
what I'm here for. I want to

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see it. He'd be the biggest
heal in the company, at least for

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that brief moment of time. Yeah, I love you can take a case,

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he already is the biggest heal in
the company. Like we cheer Roman,

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that's true. We don't cheer.
Don't nobody cheer. Doctor. Don't

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think brock Lessner is the biggest heal
on the company right now, Nah,

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because Brock still gets cheer and that's
crazy. Well, like some places still

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the one hun would be the one
you choose. I mean, you pick

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your poison. Here, here's the
here's the thing, here's the problem with

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gumfer right. He wrestles too good
for us to truly hate him. That's

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the problem. Like when you wrestle
really good, we'll never really truly hate

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you woo. But there's a lot
of us that's going to cheer because we

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are because you know, they appreciate
how good you are in the ring.

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Don't know about the appreciate a damn
thing about dominant because he beat up his

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daddy, that's what did it?
Like, you can't beat up your father,

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like be talking about your mom and
stuff. Nah, we don't rock

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with dad here in America for real, for sister, Yeah, it's a

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tough it's a tough look for sure, but yeah, and he's not that

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great of a wrestler. Yeah,
for us to give him a pass.

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So yeah, we hate dominant,
we we they just do not like him.

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Everybody else. Yeah, they still
will get chaired. It's like they

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get mixed reactions. Yeah, I
guess that's fair. That's fair. Now

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let me ask you this. Do
you think that they would do gun through

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winning money in the bank? No? Too early, Yeah, way too

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early for that. Nah, they
wouldn't do that. I mean, I

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mean it was him and Cody Rhodes
at WrestleMania, So maybe he wins the

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title at Rumble. That's always been
my thing, Like, that's always been

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my thing. I feel like him
and Cody should have a feud, like

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that's got to be over that belt, like because that would be money,

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and it's like with the way gumfer
is and the ring is sacred and all

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of that. Him going up against
Cody, who's old school, who was

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brought up into business, it would
tell an interesting story. I'd be down

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for it, for sure. I
just kind of wish. I just don't

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know who thwarts Roman other than himself
off, you know what I'm saying.

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That's kind of where I am.
Um, it's just code, right,

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So he's gonna take out two monsters
yet in the span of like a year,

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Like that's crazy to think about.
And then when he gets done with

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that gum fro all be waiting and
then some I mean, that's a lot

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to put on a man's plate,
I'll tell you that much. But it's

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Cody. He ended racism, so
I'm sure this is like a walk in

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the park from him. I'm curious
how he celebrates Pride month. Oh you

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know what I'm saying, like like
if he's if he's down, like in

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February his favorite month for sure,
But like, right, you know,

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is he rocking with them too?
You know what I'm saying, Like,

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you know, I'm just curious.
I mean, obviously he's I'm sure he

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is. I'm sure he is.
I'm sure he's not probably gonna get that

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tattoo touched uff and makeing multi color. Here we go, yeah for the

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month. Yeah, all right,
let's get a break. Let's take a

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quick break. We'll come back and
we'll talk some all elite wrestling. All

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right, So we're back in talking
about some all elite wrestling, trying to

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avoid what's going on right now in
the NBA Finals. We have to address

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it. The elephant in the room. I'm a Miami Heat fan. Wait

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before we go there, we didn't
do something. Okay, ladies and gentlemen,

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welcome to the hardest part of the
rain. Oh yes, of course

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that's somebody else's job. We just
jumped right that hell in And I just

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realized that, wait a minute to
Ron's probably gonna listen to this and be

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like these niggas didn't even introduce the
damn show. I can't. I can't

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not be there. Look, there
are no days off there however, so

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you got Javan and Jake here to
Ron's busy, probably working because he likes

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run Target practically now the Target organization
now, so he's probably there working.

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So but I mean, there's now
back to back to where you was.

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Go ahead. So for all those
that know a lot of people do know,

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I'm very honest on this podcast.
I'm a Miami Heat fan. I'm

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an O six bandwagon jumper. For
everyone keeping score, Okay, get that

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out your hat. What happened?
What happened to? Oh six? They

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beat the Mavericks for the for the
for the NBA title. That was the

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Dwyane Wade shot here, and that's
when you jumped Shoop. That was when

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I became a Miami Heat fan.
Well who we do a fan of before

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nobody I was a free agent.
Okay, say, damn you jumped shop?

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Who did you jump? Ship?
From my cousin. So a little

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back a little bit of backstory,
just to briefly get this in. So,

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my cousins are like, I have
a couple of cousins that are from

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Dallas. So they were huge MAVs
fans and they moved to Virginia UM around

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the time of the finals. And
of course, like I didn't really have

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a team at the time, and
I knew I liked basketball and all this

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other stuff, but there was this
kid playing for Miami that was just carving

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dudes up and was faster than everybody
else. I was just killing them on

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defense, and I was just like, oh my god, this guy kicks

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ass. And it was it was
Dwayne Wade. Yeah. And so when

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they ended up winning the NBA Finals, it was like, not only am

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I rubbing it in my cousin's face, I'm also now a Miami Heat fan

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because Dwayne Wade's my favorite player and
he still is to all this all this

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time later. He's my favorite player. Of all time. So there's my

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brief story. Now fast forward to
twenty twenty three. We're in the NBA

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Finals. Jimmy Buckets and company.
You're trying their best here against Javon's squad,

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the Denver Nuggets, and it is
not going well right now. They

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are currently down thirteen, but it
is okay. We're in the third quarter.

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Who knows what'll happen. Maybe Jimmy's
got another miracle. I hope not.

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I hope. I hope God ain't
listening to him. I hope that

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he took the phone off the hook, just minded his business. Because but

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in the mean time, we're still
trying to win this free Chipotle because this

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promotion is kind of crazy and unhinged
and I can't believe it. Why do

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you get free Chipotle? So every
time there's a three pointer that's shot and

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made in the game, Chipotle is
tweeting out like a special promo code,

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and if you're one of the first
three hundred people to text that promo code

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to this special number, you are
enrolled and get a free code for a

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kopa or like for a free entree
from Chipole. Oh that's nice. Yeah,

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it's kind of it's it's pretty crazy
to think about, but of course

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I'm competing against millions of other people, so I am currently oh for eight

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at this point. So all right, well Jack that we got jacko threes,

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all right, give you more chances
trying to get these burritos. Like,

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but it is what it is.
At least keeps me a little entertainmenthy

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my team's losing, speaking of losing
a W double or nothing to kind of

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backtrack till over the weekend. There
are a lot of complaints about the Vegas

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crowd, and I kind of agree
given what I saw a little bit,

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Like there were moments where the crowd
just wasn't into it, and there were

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other moments where the crowd was super
into it. So do you think that

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maybe they should move out of Vegas
for that pay per view? Or do

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you think that maybe it was just
the wrong night or the card was just

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that lacking. I think ultimately it's
a thing of they're spoiled. Because I've

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said this about aw crowds piss their
existence. They will cheer for anything.

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You can give them bullshit and they
will still cheer. You will still get

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a reaction even when it's not good. Right, And there's been times a

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W's not been very great. The
fans still pop in cheer and ye you

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you officially got the w W crowd, which is gonna be like, I

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give me something to cheer for.
I need. They're just not gonna cheer

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for anything. It's one of a
few times that AW gets a crowd where

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they're just not gonna cheer for everything
and anything you throw out there. They

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pop for the moment that Warren to
pop that that's all they're happened. And

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it wasn't great for TV purposes because
it did make the it didn't give to

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make the show feel a little lacking, but it is kind of refreshing to

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see, like not they're just not
cheering for everything they cheer for, like

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they cheer for they because they pop
for the big moments. Sure they're chopped

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for good stuff. It was just
like they just won't pop. They're gonna

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pop for every little thing they did, So I'm cool with it. You

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probably ain't gonna see many of those
crowds because we've put too much of emphasis

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on the crowds being great and the
crowd is being like yeah part of the

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show now, Like so that's true. I mean, AW is like a

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very fan centric product that we've seen. Yeah, it's one of those type

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of deals. How did you feel
about double or nothing? Though? In

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grand scheme of things, did you
think it was better than Knight of Champions?

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No, okay, I thought it
was really good. I thought it

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was really good. I thought Night
the Champions was a little bit better.

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Okay, And that's fair because you
know, me with a W I just

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feel like sometimes there's stuff that y'all
could have just put on dynamite. And

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I feel like like you got a
ten twelve match car for practically no reason,

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for real, for real, and
a lot of stuff could have been

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on dynamite. Yeah, and that
is why we're sitting here for four hours.

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Like that's true. But we had
we had ten matches on this one.

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I don't want to. I mean, people go through all of them,

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but um, but we had some
pretty good I mean Orange Cassidy winning

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his International championship. I thought that
was I thought that was an interesting call.

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I thought it was the right call
though. I mean, the dude's

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over and this run he's on has
been pretty fun, so why not keep

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the momentum? Unfortunately, came at
Swerve's expense, but that happens. Yeah,

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but yeah, because I would hate
fro him have lost the title on

400
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:15.960
the Battle the Lu but all the
work he's put in, this is how

401
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:19.000
he loses it. Which what hey, it would make totally sense. It

402
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:23.119
would give him an out, but
it would be nice. I'd rather see

403
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:27.119
if he's gonna lose it, have
if somebody beat him. Yeah, yeah

404
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:33.359
I could beat him. Um,
we had a Sabu as a special guest

405
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:41.039
enforcer. Is it on your show
in twenty twenty three? It is not,

406
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:45.799
but it is not good. I'm
sorry. It is not all this

407
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:51.799
shit Like no, I'm gonna say
this, Yes you can if you want.

408
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:55.440
Okay, I just did. I
just never understood it from a w

409
00:29:55.720 --> 00:30:00.599
standpoint, where all the ship he
has taught about people who are currently employed

410
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:07.200
in your company like that, don't
that don't ring right to me? Like

411
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:10.799
okay, uh, did you not
see what he said about Jim Rossa?

412
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:14.640
Have you not heard what he said
about Tazz? Like you might want to

413
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:18.319
like do some research before you hire
these people, man, Like that's a

414
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:22.559
tough one. And then and then
the real talk. I have no clue

415
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.279
why it was stabbo when has anybody
explained why he was helping Adam Cole?

416
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:33.039
What relationship Adam Cole has bo is
like your step dad to him or something.

417
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.240
If we didn't know was just a
big fan, it's a real big

418
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:42.720
fan. That's crazy that that's one
that was just out of left field.

419
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:49.559
All I'm saying is that it was
what it was. Now, let me

420
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:53.039
ask you this as a Jeff Jarrett
guy, although Tehran also is a Jeff

421
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:59.359
Jarrett guy and he's not here to
defend him. FTR winning made me kind

422
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:03.400
of sad, made me sad too. Man. We gotta we gotta get

423
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:04.279
a belt one, Jeff, I
don't know how are we gonna do this

424
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.759
though, mm we gotta get a
belt one, Jeff. I don't know

425
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.480
what belt we can get on Jeff
at this point because it ain't the TAD

426
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.359
titles. It ain't sure its that
ain't gonna be the TNT title. Yeah,

427
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.039
even I ain't gonna lie. I
would love to see him beat Wartlow.

428
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:21.960
That would make the world burn too, like, but man, we

429
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:25.559
might have to put a Ring of
Honor title on him. Damn. Yeah,

430
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:32.079
this sucks like title geez nah,
we got to put them six man

431
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:37.559
titles on them. Here we go
the trios titles. They can win the

432
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.920
trios titles. We just got to
get them off the House of Black first

433
00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:45.160
and then they can win them,
because then I can't have them beat in

434
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.680
the House of Black. That would
be crazy House of Black though. We

435
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:55.240
glad you brought that up. Mmm. So not only did Max Caster come

436
00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:56.839
out with one of the biggest disc
raps that he's had in a while,

437
00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:01.799
which I thought was hilarious, um
talking about how Alista Black was doing black

438
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:07.079
bass, Malachi Black was doing black
bass and h then talking about how Buddy

439
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:13.720
was getting cucked by dominic Over on
SmackDown. My man was on one my

440
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:17.000
Anaz on one Sunday. Let me
tell you it was. It was kind

441
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:22.920
of crazy, but we still had
a fun time. Yeah. Fortunately the

442
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:28.839
Acclaimed did lose and Daddy Ass also
lost with them. It was like a

443
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:31.480
night for losers, honestly, if
you think about it. Jade Cargill beats

444
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:36.920
Ty of Valkyrie and then loses her
title to Chris stat Lander. Bad bad

445
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.279
weekend for Black women in wrestling Home, bad weekend for the Black So all

446
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:47.960
the gab the Light, Coldy loses, Jay loses Bianca loses. We can't

447
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:54.920
even get we can't even get Bobby. Lastly on the car the acclaimed loseliminated.

448
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:59.599
We just said, we just out
bad this weekend. This was not

449
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:06.319
a good weekend. All's damn bad. That come back though, that come

450
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:10.640
back, Oh good. Maybe this
is what Jake Cargo needs though, to

451
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:16.000
lose at this point, you know, yeah, at this point it was

452
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:21.640
it was time. It's been long
time for her. Yeah, but it

453
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:25.799
just shows that, Okay, this
was always the plan, and I think,

454
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:30.160
but that's the one thing I kind
of get mad at aw at times,

455
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:35.480
Like sometimes y'all can deviate. Sure, Like we didn't have to sit

456
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:37.839
here and wait a year in the
stalling patern just for Chris Statler to come

457
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:42.160
back just to win this way,
Like we didn't get a feel like dang.

458
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:45.000
I was just like, all right, you healthy, all right back,

459
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:50.119
get out there and go win the
belt like and waiting like damn,

460
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.400
like we're gonna get She couldn't just
came back and just challenged her right then

461
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:57.279
then we can get the match up
the next pay per view or get it

462
00:33:57.359 --> 00:33:59.920
on Dynamite. We was just like, nah, fucking you healthy, go

463
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:05.200
out there right yeah, it's no
skin off us. Yeah. So so

464
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:07.599
when you go now with Jade,
it's like, do you push her to

465
00:34:07.719 --> 00:34:10.079
the top? Now? Did she
go now for the world title? Because

466
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:15.159
it's like you've done everything with the
T and T T TBS title. Yeah,

467
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.039
Well, when you lose that way, I imagine she should probably go

468
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:24.440
into a full program now with um
stat Lander. But I wouldn't mind if

469
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:30.079
they at least tried it go for
the women's title make Yourself. I mean,

470
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:35.960
the only issue with that is that
Jade would have to become face she

471
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:40.000
you know what's crazy? She though
kind of quasi face as it is now,

472
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:44.920
people cheer her. Just look at
her entrances and she they're getting more.

473
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:50.599
She's out here dancing and the different
outfits. Would you see that?

474
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:54.519
Would you want to see Jade and
the Batties against the outcasts for the title

475
00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:01.800
like Tony Storms? Now, I
wouldn't mind it because it tells the story

476
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:08.159
of the outcast still of them being
the outsiders and they're growing up against one

477
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:13.440
of the home grown talent talents.
So it would still tell a story.

478
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:16.880
Right, She's the product of the
factory, so right I can tell there

479
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:22.880
for sure. Hell, you think
we can get a female blood and guts.

480
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:28.280
I cast the fourth person. I
don't know who that fourth person would

481
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:32.719
be, but I'm sure thank you
somebody. Yeah, But I think if

482
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:46.280
you put Brit and Hater and Jade
and maybe stat Lander too or Sheida put

483
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:51.280
she in there against the outcast,
and I don't know, I'm sure there'll

484
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:57.440
be another girl that can be released
that can come join the team. Hell

485
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:05.119
may Naiomi a part in the outcast
who cares like W is about to make

486
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:10.480
some So we'll see who's gonna end
up coming to a W man. They

487
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:15.360
about to cut some bombs that I
mean, if any moment, if there

488
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:16.440
was any moment now, I mean, I would imagine, you know,

489
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:21.039
probably given that we haven't seen him
in a long time, and I don't

490
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:22.239
even know if it's because of injury
at this point, I mean, bray

491
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:29.719
Wyatt probably on that list now.
They ain't cut no fucking bray Watt because

492
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:34.679
they know he'll thrive. That's fine, they can't. You You can't sit

493
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:38.400
here and let him go and then
turn around bring him back just to sit

494
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:45.280
here and be like, hey see
Hill again right now. You hold on

495
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:50.360
to that, hold on that like
speaking of holding on to something. I

496
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:52.960
got to talk about my match of
the night. Oh, the Four Way

497
00:36:53.039 --> 00:37:00.360
Pillars match for the AW World Championship. M JF tains against Sammy Gavar,

498
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:05.679
A Jungle Boy, and Darby Allen. Let me tell you something about this

499
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:09.039
final spot where all of them were
hitting every finisher they've ever been taught by

500
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:15.480
their mentors. That was the coolest
spot I've seen in a while in terms

501
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:19.079
of just pro wrestling, And like
I was, I thought that was masterclass

502
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:22.639
kind of stuff. I thought that
was so fun. And the fact that

503
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:27.719
MJF is now using the Crossroads as
his finisher, I just I think that

504
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:32.199
that's so devious and I love it. I agree, be good. And

505
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:36.480
he doesn't even mention it, Like
he doesn't even call it the crossroads either,

506
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:42.000
Like good, what it is?
Oh, it's so cross the overhead

507
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:45.880
takedown, It's so good. It's
so good. It is so good.

508
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:52.119
I love it. I love his
press conferences so much because he just sits

509
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:55.159
there with Tony Kahn. It is
just like, you have nobody else for

510
00:37:55.280 --> 00:38:00.719
me to wrestle, just so you
know, um, and Tony just has

511
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:05.480
to sit there and take it because
that's him. Like yeah, he'd be

512
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:08.039
saying some wild as shit and just
be like but it's like shit, I

513
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:12.599
can dig like right, yeah,
New Japan. New Japan is an indie

514
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:16.480
fair New Japan in his biggest what
y'all think? Hmm, You're right,

515
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:19.920
he was right, sir. I've
been feeling that way a long time.

516
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:25.320
You right, keep on talking all
while Tony Khan's looking over there and he

517
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.639
it was crazy. It's like he
when MJF starts talking, he'd be looking

518
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:36.360
at him way worse than he ever
looked at Punk during his scrump, like

519
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:39.960
when Punk was going on. If
he was just looking like I the moment

520
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:43.239
m j WOMAN is about if he
looks him like you bet and I say,

521
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:54.079
goddamn bad. You know, Gato
is listening right like heyn he don't

522
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:57.840
want Forbidden Door to ever be a
thing again. That is the best,

523
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:02.360
right, But oh my goodness,
I mean it was. It was a

524
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:06.039
fun match. I want them to
do it something like that again down the

525
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:08.719
line, because that was so much
fun. Now the question that I have,

526
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:14.159
um and I didn't get a chance
to watch all of Dynamites to correct

527
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.840
me if I'm wrong, But MJF
doesn't really have a clear next up?

528
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:27.440
Does he no? Okay, So
if you had to pick a one,

529
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:29.960
I mean, is it who is
it? Is it Adam Cole? Is

530
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:35.159
it is it? Is it the
returning Philip? I mean if Philip Brooks,

531
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:38.079
like, is it gonna be you
know, somebody from Blackpool Combat Club?

532
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:42.079
Like? What are you? What
are you thinking? I feel like

533
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.239
the way they've been setting things up
lately is going to be cold, okay,

534
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:54.159
But if it was me, it
would be punk right, like real

535
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:57.920
talk, and I ain't even whole
nothing bad. If it was me,

536
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:01.679
I would have took the belt and
put it on punk Win say, I

537
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:07.760
ain't even gonna hold you. I
would have took the built off and brought

538
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:12.159
Pump back Wednesday. I'm not waiting
to no fucking collision. Nah, he's

539
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:16.559
gonna win this title back to night. He's gonna be my champion because the

540
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:21.719
match I'm going to build for all
in is Pump versus Omaga. That's it.

541
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:25.280
Yeah, that's the that's the money
match. I'm gonna feed into the

542
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:30.519
drama and everything, and I'm gonna
give the world Pump versus Megan win Blue.

543
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:35.920
I'm a truly selling bitch out.
That would be that's what it is.

544
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:40.519
Think about that, right, That's
all I'm gonna do. But they're

545
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:45.360
not gonna think like that, So
it's probably gonna be cold. And I

546
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:49.440
wouldn't be surprised if Cole actually beat
him, That's what I'm saying, Like

547
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:52.880
I don't. I mean, you
know, it would be the best for

548
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:57.599
business. We both know this,
right, Like if CM punk comes back,

549
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:00.840
wins the title from either MJF and
has defended against Kenny Omega, like

550
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:05.920
that right there, that's money,
that's your that's your fiscal year and how

551
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:09.239
much money you're gonna right for him
to just come back and just immediately be

552
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:14.280
that guy again, it's it's crazy, crazy to even think about it.

553
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:19.400
But ultimately, like yeah, you
know, also Ballsy moved by him to

554
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:21.519
kind of jump ahead. I was
going to kind of try to save this,

555
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:25.079
but why not since we're here for
him to just come out on Dynamite

556
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:28.760
in a minute segment and be like, Hey, Collision is gonna be awesome.

557
00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:30.199
It's gonna be in Chicago, and
guess who's gonna be there too,

558
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:37.239
the return of cmpunk, Like that's
crazy. He's trying to draw a rating

559
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:42.480
day one, and that's cool.
Because it worked for Rampage, it's gonna

560
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:49.400
work for Collision now. But Rowski, that is extraordinary, Like that is

561
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:52.400
something that is promotion as at its
finest. I guess like I have this

562
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:58.880
commodity that's coming back, and now
everybody's gonna set their DVR. Yeah,

563
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.599
a smart business like And the thing
is everybody's gonna want to hear what he

564
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:07.559
has to say, because there's no
way he just comes back and it's like,

565
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.599
oh, happy to be back,
guys, Let's let's make it count

566
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:15.480
this time. Like there's no way
you give them a little bit too much

567
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:20.000
credit? No, you don't think
so, Yeah, because like he should,

568
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:22.519
Like I would pay good money for
him to just come out there a

569
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.800
day one to drop another pipe bomb
and just do a continuation up the scrum

570
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:31.239
and just go in on everybody right, be this hell. But I honestly

571
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:35.760
feel like, nah, they're not
gonna let him do that shit because I

572
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:40.079
feel like they might just really keep
him from Omega in the bucks and keep

573
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:45.360
them separate. And if that's the
case, like that's money left on the

574
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:47.639
table. They need to go ahead
and just figure it out. Let them

575
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:51.880
fight, maybe put them in the
blackpool combat club for at night. Let

576
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:53.320
them be part of this ship,
like, let them be the fifth for

577
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:58.119
them. Yeah, fun, Takashita, you know what I mean? Right,

578
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:02.199
Like, I don't know that was
an interference for me. By the

579
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:07.079
way, the main event, Takashia
coming out Decide with Blackpool Combat Club,

580
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:09.920
I was kind of like, cool, I don't know. The story was

581
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:13.599
kind of lost on me. So
I was just like, okay, like

582
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:16.599
all this is doing is just proving
to me that Koda Bushi's coming to a

583
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:24.519
w Yeah, yeah, that's cool, that's tortul But like Takashia versus Koda

584
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:28.519
Bushi don't really get my painties wet
like that. Like I'm trying to see

585
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:31.599
Kenny versus Koda with anybody. Oh, you ain't saying that, and I

586
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:35.639
won't see that. I'll see them
as tag team champions for like a year

587
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:37.840
before I see that, which would
be I don't know the match would be

588
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:43.360
fired though between them and FTR.
Oh yeah oh yeah, yeah yeah that's

589
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:45.119
money too. But he's got to
lose to see him pumped first. That's

590
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:51.000
the whole big thing at this point. Oh Anny Omega, you got that

591
00:43:51.119 --> 00:44:00.079
in your calendar year as they lose
the canny Omega m depends honestly pains if

592
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:05.639
you're gonna do it more than once
it's only a one time thing, then

593
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:09.760
nah, Omega should beat them,
but Mega should beat him, like,

594
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:15.440
because let's be real, Punk was
the one talking shit, so Omega should

595
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:17.559
beat them. But if we can
get more multiple matches out of this,

596
00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:22.960
yeah, let Punk win the first
one. Like, h I mean,

597
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:27.320
I'd be down for a series.
Yeah, It's just be interesting how it's

598
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:31.280
just it's crazy really just to know
how the dynamic is. Yeah, like,

599
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:34.840
is this a thing they really just
don't fuck with each other for real?

600
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.000
For real? Like or is this
a thing of like, hey,

601
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:39.119
all right, this is business,
so we'll come together for business. I

602
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:45.239
mean, I like y'all, but
we'll come together for business. But everybody

603
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:49.159
else tell it, Nah, this
ain't this ain't no business thing. That's

604
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:53.480
why we gotta put them on separate
shows. And that's yeah, good luck

605
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:57.480
with that, because I see how
w that B does a brand split and

606
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:06.440
it lasts by the week before.
Yeah, good luck. Maybe they can

607
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.039
be a Wednesday actually make it work
so well. I think it comes at

608
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:14.079
a good time too, because collision
it just feels like Collision is gonna have

609
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:17.880
a lot of roh Steaks in it. And because that's supposed to be that's

610
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:22.719
supposed to be rampage now really,
because they were promoting Samoa Joe as King

611
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:28.719
of Saturday Nights. Oh sweet Jesus, no, don't do it, don't

612
00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:32.039
do right? What time is this
Sean Saturday? I don't know, let

613
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:36.039
me double check. Who's don't tell
me? Is that eight o'clock goes eight

614
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:39.800
o'clock? They're they're done, They're
done in what are you say? It's

615
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:51.000
like sticky? Uh what is it? Weir says it's gonna be in ten

616
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:54.440
ADP. That's great, eight pm
on Saturday. Yeah, they've done the

617
00:45:54.599 --> 00:46:01.400
first Yeah they'll they've done it until
in June. Right, Yeah, they

618
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:07.159
got a good they got a good
three months. They got a good three

619
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:10.400
months that they'll be okay because once
college football season starts, it's a rap.

620
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:17.119
That eight o'clock football game on ABC. We are watching. We we

621
00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:22.840
no attention to y'all. We we
watched Alabama, we watched Ohio State.

622
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:28.199
We have paying no attention to y'all. Like, hey man, come on,

623
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:31.039
they're mad to be thankful. No
NFL on Sunday Saturdays. Wait,

624
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:36.960
they're gonna start having Saturday in May. I wouldn't put the past. Yeah

625
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.679
yeah, but Polish football, yea, when that starts, they're done for.

626
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:45.559
They ain't. Nobody can know what
collision exists. You think telling you

627
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:50.679
would understand that too, given that
he's got stakes in football. But then

628
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:52.760
again, yeah, I would hope
so. But I mean he's not confident

629
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:54.760
in the product. I don't know. I mean, we'll hell with the

630
00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:59.920
way that ram Rampage ratings is.
I mean I figure if they they probably

631
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.760
be happy to get like five hundred
thousand and very Saturday night. They'd probably

632
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:08.000
be happy with that. Yeah,
on the sad day. Like my thing

633
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:10.400
is, you record it and all
of a sudden it becomes your Sunday morning

634
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:15.960
cartoons. There you go, you
know what I mean, Like before football,

635
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:20.239
before football starts at one, like
you just check it out, you

636
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:22.760
know, as you're setting your fancy
lighting up, all of a sudden collisions

637
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:24.800
on that. It makes sense to
me haveing on it, Like at least

638
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:27.599
for me, I'll eat my breakfast, you know what I'm saying, and

639
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:34.199
I'll watch aw collisions just a little. Well, maybe they should be maybe

640
00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:37.079
they should be the Sunday show.
Then let's move Collision to Sundays Sunday the

641
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:42.320
ten am. There we go,
there we go right before football. Dude,

642
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:46.039
it's a little too early eleven am. Go ahead Sundays at eleven am

643
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:49.400
from eleven to one, and then
we can go right in the football.

644
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.079
Were good? Why I leave the
couch at that point? You know?

645
00:47:52.519 --> 00:48:00.360
Yeah, I'm straight, especially when
you especially with excuse me, actually with

646
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:04.039
our teams. I mean, my
team plays a lot of primetime games this

647
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.360
year, so a lot of Sundays
at one o'clock. My my slates not

648
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:15.079
booked, so that that's true.
It's true. But I'm just curious about

649
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:20.239
it looks so to me like the
marketing for Collision, if you think about

650
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:25.800
it, like it looks a lot
like WCW Nitro. You know what,

651
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:29.559
I wasn't the only when I thought
that, Okay, I'm looking at it

652
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:34.440
like this is like night that reminds
me of Nitro. Like yeah, when

653
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:36.960
I saw the yellow on the red, I was like, actually this is

654
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:40.039
pretty familiar, Like this is this
is what this is? This is cool.

655
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:45.440
They're really uh, they're really buying
into the whole we are the new

656
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:51.320
WCW stuff and I kind of like
it. However, speaking about WCW UM

657
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:57.719
The Dark Side of the Ring just
premiered last week or this past week,

658
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:01.239
season four. I missed it.
Wait a minute, it did. Yeah,

659
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:05.159
who was the first one? Because
I knew this season. I was

660
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:07.360
like, oh, they got some
good ones this season. Who was the

661
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:09.440
first one? Any one? Second? Just now, I gotta go watch

662
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:14.559
that because continuity. I love me
some Dark Side of the Brain. They

663
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:19.400
just tell all the business like when
WW was like, we have our own

664
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.280
and it's not anywhere near as good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So

665
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.320
it premiered on May thirtieth, and
it was Chris and Tammy. It was

666
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:34.000
Chris Candido and Tamils. Oh okay, oh no, who when's the next?

667
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:36.800
Next one is the seventh? Now, next one's on the sixth,

668
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:45.400
and that's gonna be magnum ta Oh
hell nah mag No. Is there anyone

669
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:49.960
else that you're like really really excited
for? Like, so I think for

670
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:53.559
you, knowing you, knowing how
you are, WCW Lifer, I feel

671
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:57.880
like episode seven for this season is
going to be one for you. And

672
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:02.760
that's the WCW bashitt the b two
thousand or Vince Russo and hold, oh

673
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:07.199
that ship was great. You get
kind of a preview on what that is.

674
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:15.280
Oh so right, Okay, that's
so right. This is when Vince

675
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:19.840
Russo had all the fucking power for
real, for real, right, and

676
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:24.559
Hogan was champ. Bakin was champ. He was supposed to defend the title

677
00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:30.920
against Jeff Jared, Okay, Russo
wanted him to lose. And you know,

678
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:37.519
Holgan, baby, Holgan got full
creative control in his contract. He

679
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:42.760
was like, nah, brother,
that don't work for me. No,

680
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:49.239
no, no, yeah. So
instead I'm just being like, all right,

681
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:52.280
we get it. Let's just work
something different, right. Vince was

682
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:57.639
like. Russo was like, oh
word, bitch, I got something for

683
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:00.840
you. Jeff, come here,
that's what I want you to do.

684
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:05.840
Go out there and you lay the
fuck down. You don't do ship the

685
00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:08.119
bell rings, lay down, Okay, just let him have it, because

686
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:15.519
fuck him. Sure enough, Jared
comes out there, bell rings, boom,

687
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:19.000
lays down. We're looking at this
dude like, are you fucking kidding

688
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:22.840
me? And Jeff is just like, look, hey, it's what I

689
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:25.400
gotta do. My boy. I'm
sorry, I got kids. Yeah,

690
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:28.920
you know, I fused with you
still will we cool, but you know

691
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:35.400
it's him. It's him. So
Holgan pens him, where's the bell?

692
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:39.280
Grab the mic and and instantly it's
like, Yo, Russo, is this

693
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:45.199
your bullshit? Like yo, this
first time you hear Holgan be like yo,

694
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:47.480
kind of real, like Yo,
this show this your ship, Russo.

695
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:50.800
This is kind of this is why
let me said fuck up as it

696
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:55.079
is, this is why bullshit like
this. I'm like, okay, holding

697
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:07.119
But then right, Bitce comes out
there later, grabs a bike and just

698
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:13.480
goes the fucking But we sit there
and talking about punk going in. Nah

699
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:20.039
Russo wenting live on TV for minutes. It was like, fuck you all

700
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:29.880
coking shit. But and it's crazy, like he's selling his ship and he's

701
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:34.519
like it's like a It comes off
as a baby faced probo, which is

702
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:37.440
the funniest thing ever because you're sitting
here listening to it and like a true

703
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:43.159
wrestling fan, you know, di
WC. We're sitting there like, you

704
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:46.719
know what, you're absolutely right,
you speaking right, yeah, let him

705
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:52.519
come, let him come. So
then so then it ends up being so

706
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:54.719
he's like, nah, so fusball
cocing the belt he walked out with,

707
00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:59.239
he can have it he can take
it with him because fucking you'll never see

708
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:05.400
his ass again. Nothing. Tonight, we're gonna have a new championship between

709
00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:09.440
Jeff Jarrett and Book of T.
And what's crazy is throughout all of this

710
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:15.679
ship, you know what happens what
Booker wins the belt. Jared, don't

711
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:17.599
you get the fucking title? You
did all this shit? Didn't get the

712
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:29.079
belt? Buck wins the belt?
Yo? Come on? Which then you

713
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:31.800
later found out that the whole plan
for Jared to win the title was so

714
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:36.000
he could lose it the book or
T anyway, so he could put them

715
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:37.400
because he wanted to get the belt
on Book a T. Still. So

716
00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:40.199
then when you learn that, it's
like, oh, okay, I get

717
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:44.000
it. We just didn't. We
just went and just put the belt on

718
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:49.480
him that night. Whatever. Then
after that, Hogan was not on TV

719
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:54.559
for a minute for a good little
bit, hed A filing a lawsuit against

720
00:53:54.679 --> 00:54:00.599
Vin through So for declamation of character, thank you. I'm not sure if

721
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:02.880
he won, but he did.
I think he got close there. He

722
00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:08.000
got the settlement for that ship,
and then he eventually came back, and

723
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:15.039
he eventually came back when it was
the um damn it. The Millionaires Club.

724
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:20.000
Bullshit, there they're doing. Yeah, when they hit a complete other

725
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:27.159
reset again, like they come like
they completely like they stripped everybody in the

726
00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:31.320
belt of everybody's title. It was
like we were resetting. They literally came

727
00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:35.960
out on TV, had everybody in
rings, like, I look what we've

728
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:37.840
been doing at work, and we're
gonna do a reset. So all the

729
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:43.920
championships are vacant, like damn,
can you do that? But I bet

730
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:50.920
so. Then it became the young
guys, or it became the young guys

731
00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:55.559
and the guys who really didn't get
the opportunities against the old niggas. So

732
00:54:55.639 --> 00:55:01.280
it was essentially the whole roster and
seven people Blair, Hogan, Sting,

733
00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:08.599
Nash DDP, Sid Vicious, and
it was one more and I can't remember

734
00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:13.280
who it was, but that's a
sision. It was all Dim against the

735
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:20.480
whole fucking roster. And this is
how he won't dare Oh okay he was,

736
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:25.480
Yeah, Hall won't there this time, and Savage Yeah it was it's

737
00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:29.000
a it's another person. I can't
remember who the hell it was, but

738
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:34.639
but it was kind of a crazy
era that one period. I think it

739
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:38.039
lasted maybe like some months or two
a year before it closed, before Subby

740
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:43.760
closed, but it gave us the
beautiful Hawk Coogan versus Billy Kitmanfew, which

741
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:49.559
I would have never thought would ever
exist, but it did. Oh no,

742
00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:52.639
it's uh so I just looked it
up. It's Rick Flair, Whole

743
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:57.559
Coogan, Kevin Nash, DDP Sting, Sid Vicious, Mister Perfect, and

744
00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:02.440
Lex Luger. Yeah okay, yeah, yeah yeah, and you know Luca

745
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:06.559
Dumbass eventually turns on him. He
always does. It is what it is,

746
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:10.000
that's your guy. It was like
it was it was yeah, but

747
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:14.159
it was that was a crazy ass
ship because it's like, you see,

748
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:16.760
like you never thought Billy Kitton's gonna
few would Hawk open, right, Yeah,

749
00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:21.239
never thought that messing a million years, but it happens. Shane Douglas

750
00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:23.360
finally got his hands on Rick Flair. It was like it was like a

751
00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:30.480
crazy ass time, like anything all
the while, huh did anything was possible?

752
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:35.000
Yeah? And then we got the
Rise of what Bookat got this belt

753
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:38.159
five times and Scott stock the Rise
of Scott Steiner and everything, So it

754
00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:42.320
was kind of it was okay for
a little bit, or got some good

755
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:44.960
things out of it. Yeah,
but how we got there. It was

756
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:50.840
just crazy true. It's just like
I couldn't imagine doing all that just to

757
00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:53.599
compete with WWE at the po or
WWF at the time. That was just

758
00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:58.480
like putting out bangers after bangers in
two thousand and two thousand and one,

759
00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:00.360
two thousand, all the way to
two thousand three, because I think that

760
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:06.199
was around the time where that was. It like Rock and Goldberg had already

761
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:10.400
left or were about to leave and
everything like that too. So Goldberg had

762
00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:14.280
left yet not No. Three.
No, No, you're right he leaves

763
00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:16.639
No. Four. I mean,
because that's when um suppression starts to No.

764
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:21.360
Four. I'm trying to think when
did he leave? He left?

765
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:25.480
Yeah, he came over. I
wanted to know. He came over after

766
00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:34.280
the rustle after WrestleMania. I want
to say eighteen the Rock the Hole gime

767
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:39.559
on Rock Rustlemania. Oh okay,
um, yeah, he can't run.

768
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:45.800
No, I might have been No. Three because he was out for a

769
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:49.920
second before he ended up coming back
because he missed the whole Alliance shit.

770
00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:52.880
He came after the Alliance, he
missed all that shit. Good for him,

771
00:57:52.360 --> 00:58:02.559
good for him, But you um
yeah, because yeah, I don't

772
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:05.880
know that's just crazy to think about
though, Like they had to do all

773
00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:09.800
this kind of stuff, Like in
reality, let's be honest and revisionist history

774
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:12.960
is going to tell you the same
thing. Giving Whole Coke and all that

775
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:17.679
power they did at Turner ruined WCW. And I mean as a combination,

776
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:22.320
I think it was a collection of
errors with that contract, Vince Russo and

777
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:30.199
Eric Bischoff altogether. Yeah, yeah, but without haul Coke and they don't

778
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:34.760
compete for sure. No, I'm
not saying that the whole thing. It's

779
00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:39.960
like I think their problem when it
got to it was like they didn't know

780
00:58:40.039 --> 00:58:45.480
how to end ship. Yeah,
like and that's the whole thing. Like

781
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:50.920
WCW, like a aw, they're
very great at starting ship, they're very

782
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:55.440
great at the beginning of the storyline, but then they don't know how to

783
00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:59.639
end it right, And I think
that was that was always w c w's

784
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:04.320
problem, was like like even down
to the nWo, you didn't know how

785
00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:07.199
to end the ship right. You
had Goldberg out of the street, you

786
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:10.159
didn't you ended that fucked up.
It's like what you do. It's like

787
00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:14.480
you started and you can make it
progress good, but then you don't end

788
00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:21.039
it right, and then But the
crazy thing about WCW is like we think

789
00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:23.440
that it was like it's always so
like, oh they were down bad towards

790
00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:30.199
the end. It wasn't really that
bad. The ratings wasn't as bad as

791
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:34.719
people making out to be. Like
they were still getting three four million.

792
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:37.880
It was just a regiment, right, it was just a carryover regiment of

793
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:43.400
just people that had always watched Nitro. Yeah, but it's like it's but

794
00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:46.239
it's crazy to think like in that
day age, like you're still getting three

795
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:50.360
to four million people, even though
you're losing money, You're still getting three

796
00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:53.639
to four million people to have watched
every week every Monday. And the companies

797
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:57.920
like, nah, I don't want
this ship on our portfolio on the look,

798
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:02.360
I mean, you don't want this
anymore. Like it's that's that's a

799
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:07.320
crazy thing to think about. Like
it's like fast forward to today where it's

800
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:13.320
like raw rarely does four million,
barely do two million, right, I

801
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:15.960
didn't even get that every week,
Like a W can't even get a million

802
01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:19.440
every week. But they're like,
hey, we love this shit great.

803
01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:24.920
Yeah, they're just have people tune
in different different air, different air because

804
01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:29.320
sure, I mean a W wouldn't
survive, and they wouldn't survive, and

805
01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:32.280
like the additude are I mean,
I'm the same. I mean, oh

806
01:00:32.360 --> 01:00:37.559
yeah, a W would. But
like overall, I mean, if you

807
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:43.760
really think about it, like you
know, everything kind of changed in the

808
01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:47.000
mid two thousands, I mean football
took off. I mean to the point

809
01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:51.639
where you know, Mondays basically you
just were second to football. And then

810
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:57.159
you bring in like you know,
college basketball and stuff like there's always something

811
01:00:57.400 --> 01:01:00.960
else on and that kind of like
ruined and not ruined, but it just

812
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:05.639
takes viewers away, and you know, and with less and less viewers,

813
01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:08.440
less less generations of kids watching it, they carry over to win their adults

814
01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:13.880
and stuff. It's just it's all
trickle down effect as you can imagine.

815
01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:22.920
Yeah, like the combination of WCW
closing and then Austin and Rock seemingly going

816
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:29.159
away, and then the rise of
the rise of Monday night football for real,

817
01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:32.079
for real, and that in the
NFL becoming now this juggernaut because they

818
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:37.400
want a juggernaut like that in late
nineties, you want to fucking juggernaut like

819
01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:44.320
so now it's like Dave gone from
like getting less ratings than wrestling to like

820
01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:47.320
getting ten million, fifteen million people
for a Monday night game. Yeah,

821
01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:52.519
that combination kind of like it did
wrestling in and brought it down, brought

822
01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:58.119
it down a peg where it ain't
the same that it was. And then

823
01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:02.920
now you have the combination now of
it's so many different ways you can consume

824
01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:07.039
it. You'll it's it's hard as
hell to get back to where we used

825
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:14.679
to be, for sure. Yeah, secause unless unless one of these companies

826
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:21.159
are bold enough to be like,
all right, you have to watch here,

827
01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:25.239
and if you don't watch here,
you ain't gonna see the ship.

828
01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:31.119
It would take somebody bold enough to
pull that to be like, we're not

829
01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:35.159
on Hulu. You can't watch the
repeats on Hulu. We ain't on Peacock.

830
01:02:35.559 --> 01:02:37.119
You can't just go to Peacock and
watch You can't just go to YouTube

831
01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:44.000
and watch highlights tun in Monday nine
at eight o'clock. Yeah, and watch

832
01:02:44.119 --> 01:02:45.519
it. If you miss it,
guess what, watch it next week.

833
01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:52.519
Sorry, but that's what's gonna take. Like for real, it's really crazy.

834
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:57.039
That would be absolutely crazy if you
think about it, Because especially isn't

835
01:02:57.039 --> 01:03:00.760
Tony con like desperate for a streamer
right now? Like he can't fine streamer.

836
01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:05.199
Well's not that, it's just it's
probably more numerics than I'm making.

837
01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:09.000
But it's like he's been actively shopping
trying to find anywhere to put their library,

838
01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:13.880
and it's just like nobody wants it. Like I think he had a

839
01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:16.760
brief. I think there was like
a brief deal in place with like Warner

840
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:21.800
Brothers and HBO Max, But like
now that they're now they're in on Discovery,

841
01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:27.239
it's just like there's nothing here aint
the same thing. Yeah, yeah,

842
01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:30.440
they're here now, but they finally
just merged into one. So their

843
01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:35.280
data libraries just so large already that
it's like people already are watching enough on

844
01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:38.320
Max as opposed to if you bring
in a w it's like, right,

845
01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:43.760
Peacock, Like WW is one of
the biggest things NBC owns, so it's

846
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:47.679
like they have the streaming rights.
Pls. I'll help it too. Yeah,

847
01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:52.159
yeah, we got like, yeah, it's a lot of stuff on

848
01:03:52.360 --> 01:04:00.320
Discover because we got to watch exactly
and old white people have to watch gold

849
01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:04.880
Rush. Yep. My dad and
my older brother man, they talk about

850
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:10.079
gold Rush NonStop, like it's like
anytime they get in the room together,

851
01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:12.360
it's always like you don't want to
ask so many ounces. That was I

852
01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:18.360
was like, you guys are really
bored on Fridays, Like that is awful.

853
01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:27.760
I'm curious about the I'm very curious
about the Junkyard Dog. I know

854
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:30.000
we're kind of like just killing time, it seems like, but like going

855
01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:33.440
back to the dark side of the
ring, like Marty and Junkyard Dog,

856
01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:36.280
for me, are the two that
I'm looking forward to out of the sea,

857
01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:42.320
which ones Marty Jannetti and Junkyard Dog. Oh, they're gonna be that

858
01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:45.280
hit. Natty One's gonna be wild. Yeah, there's a reason that's the

859
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:49.039
season finale for sure. Yeah,
yeah, that wanna be wild. The

860
01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:53.920
Junkyard Dog is gonna be a good
one too. And a lot of people,

861
01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:58.960
I don't think understand how big of
a star he was. Yeah,

862
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:03.840
Like I don't think. I think
people just remember the old Junkyard Dog,

863
01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:10.159
the one in WWF and like the
first Rustlemania and the one towards the end

864
01:05:10.239 --> 01:05:14.159
in the late nineties in WCW.
They don't remember the one in Mid South

865
01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:19.079
in like seventy eight that was selling
out the super Dome, Like they don't

866
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:23.360
remember that one. People wanted to
see the dog, you know, like

867
01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:29.679
I yeah, that was drawing power. Like he low key ended racism too

868
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:38.519
for he ended racism for a little
bit like shit man, all right,

869
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:41.960
I'll take your word for it.
That makes me even more so. I

870
01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:47.519
am, well Javon here we are, um less than five and a half

871
01:05:47.599 --> 01:05:53.119
minutes left in the game. It's
not looking good for my squad. That's

872
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:59.280
all right though. Uh heating five
so and uh and with that, thank

873
01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:02.400
you for joining us tonight, everybody. I really hope you don't bet on

874
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:08.000
that. I got twenty on the
series, but you know, nothing's too

875
01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:12.760
substantial, not for me at least
I got. I got twenty on the

876
01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:17.280
Nuggets winning a championship, right yeah, And I forgot I had that because

877
01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:24.199
I put it down when they were
like a plus two thousand, oh yeah,

878
01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:27.360
right, Like I put it down
in the beginning when nobody believed in

879
01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:30.920
Denver. I was like, you
know what, I'm gonna shoot my shot

880
01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:34.360
this year. I let go damn
Okay. So okay, So that's why

881
01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:39.039
I'm like, we might I might
ask to win something for once on this

882
01:06:39.159 --> 01:06:43.400
ship. Like the craft Kings,
Oh that are tough, like the fuck

883
01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:48.880
like resting me like that's what I'm
saying, dude, Like I don't understand

884
01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:53.519
people like make their living working in
sports betting. It's just like, wow,

885
01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:59.599
don't get it. Like I've tried
what the um doing? The fantasy

886
01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:02.239
stuffna fan duel and stuff. Sure, and I'm like, how the hell

887
01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:04.960
do y'all somebody y'all be doing this
all the time and make a living,

888
01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:09.960
Like how can you tell who to
pick? I'll be picked looking, I'll

889
01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:13.719
be trying to analyze like Okay,
maybe he's gonna have a good game,

890
01:07:13.800 --> 01:07:15.400
let's shoot for him. And then
it becomes you know it, just picked

891
01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:18.800
the biggest names. You'll never go
wrong, and sure enough, somebody always

892
01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:25.280
goes wrong. Like I don't get
this never fails, my boy, you

893
01:07:25.360 --> 01:07:28.920
cannot win. That's what's going on
here. Yeah, I see, Like

894
01:07:29.079 --> 01:07:30.480
that's I was like, I'm done. I quit. I'm not doing this

895
01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:38.320
no more frustrating me. Hey oh
man, well Javan, like I said,

896
01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:41.679
thank you so much. Guys at
home, we are we are bath.

897
01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:45.280
We're gonna try to get back on
this weekly grind like we always have.

898
01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:48.800
UM. Hopefully we'll get some more
consistency, Hopefully we'll get some old

899
01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:53.320
faces back here. In rotation stuff
like that. Try to get back in

900
01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:57.400
covers wrestling as it seems fit.
It looks like we're coming back at the

901
01:07:57.480 --> 01:07:59.480
right time though, because it seems
like a lot of stuff's about to go

902
01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:02.039
on. So we apologize for the
data, but we are happy to be

903
01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:04.639
back. If you want to follow
us, we are on Instagram at the

904
01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:08.440
hardest part of the ring with an
underscore, on Twitter at the hardest part

905
01:08:09.880 --> 01:08:12.960
excuse me, at the hardest underscore
pod. I don't know, I'm all

906
01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:15.800
over the place. Uh, And
then of course at the hardest part of

907
01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:17.239
the ring, So keep a lookout
for us there. You can always stream

908
01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:20.680
the podcasts everywhere you get your streaming, you know, whether it's Spreaker,

909
01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:25.760
Apple podcast or Apple Yeah, excuse
me, Apple podcasts. It's been a

910
01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:29.800
while, Spotify, et cetera,
et cetera, and of course always you

911
01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:33.199
know, give Javon some some questions
to answer at the Monday night mailbox and

912
01:08:33.239 --> 01:08:40.239
that number is so about that,
right, Okay, okay, got enough.

913
01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:45.760
I kind of broke it. Okay, damn, he was pissed.

914
01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:49.319
That's what I'm hearing is that he
was. Man. No, I didn't

915
01:08:49.439 --> 01:08:56.600
know that I had to keep like
they kept send and I wouldn't even pay

916
01:08:56.600 --> 01:08:59.119
attention to the message they were sending
me, like, hey, I got

917
01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:01.079
the log ins, you can keep
the number and die out that and I

918
01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:09.479
never did interesting, So I love
gotchas. Okay, I'm in the process

919
01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:13.359
of getting this set up in a
better way of which I now don't have

920
01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:15.600
to worry about like, hey,
certain period of time, make sure I

921
01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:19.520
remember to log in or remember sure
that renew things like like that, like,

922
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:23.880
because I'm no good at crap like
that. So, yes, the

923
01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:28.039
number is kind of non existent at
the moment, but we'll get this just

924
01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:30.880
to work, right, it's a
it's a t BA. But in the

925
01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:32.640
meantime, if you guys like to
email us with questions, we do have

926
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:36.479
an email that's functional and that is
at that is uh the hardest part of

927
01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:41.479
the ring at gmail dot com.
So y'all can cut it to twelve.

928
01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:45.479
Okay, Yeah, well, hey
man, you know coming, y'all coming

929
01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:49.399
back? So, who the hell
is high Smith? Wait a minute,

930
01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:54.399
I don't know him, Heywood Highsmith? One of these what's your name?

931
01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:59.560
Heywood? Highsmith? Heywood? Yeah? Who the fuck names to child?

932
01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:03.720
Heywo again? Twenty into two thousands, like what someone who loves their grandfather.

933
01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:06.880
I guess that's what old is this
kid? He got to be grown

934
01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:13.039
like he's that's the best part.
He's younger. But one he's black,

935
01:10:13.119 --> 01:10:15.880
So I totally understand. Now,
God that Hey because Hey was a black

936
01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:23.479
name, like that is a definite
black name. Yeah. He was born

937
01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:28.079
in ninety six. And his named
Haywood, poor poor tein team ain't the

938
01:10:28.119 --> 01:10:33.119
way I'm going through school being named
Haywood Haywood high Smith. That only,

939
01:10:33.279 --> 01:10:36.600
Oh my god, that's not something
about of a movie. And he's hooping.

940
01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:44.159
He's dumped on your kids. Fuck
that nigga. I don't even know

941
01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:50.800
him now. I don't like him, like Heywood, Like, and where

942
01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:57.640
the hell y'all finding these dudes from
Hey Haywood and Gabe and through Strawson.

943
01:10:57.760 --> 01:11:00.800
Now he said, my boy Max, yes, sir, my boy Max

944
01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:03.920
Truce. Yeah, Bro. I
mean they just they literally they pick them

945
01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:06.680
up because they don't get drafted,
and then they send him to South Dakota

946
01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:10.920
and they just train the shit out
of them, like and then they just

947
01:11:11.039 --> 01:11:15.119
bring them up. It's the coolest
y'all just create little basketball Ivan Dragos and

948
01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:20.479
shit. I bet that's exactly what
this is. Yeah, a ton of

949
01:11:20.520 --> 01:11:25.800
money because he has literally been programmed
by Eric Spoelstra to be the next point

950
01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:28.880
guard for this team. It's insane, all right. Yeah, I'm gonna

951
01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:32.720
send a lot of the ads of
silver because it's got to be illegals.

952
01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:39.680
I demand investigation. My boys out
in Sioux Falls shout out, wow,

953
01:11:40.399 --> 01:11:41.600
I don't even know where it's at.