Wrestling! Feat. Javon and Jacoby

0:00 Yes, white lady, my distant sister or relative at something. She's a cousin of song, ain't you must be must be somewhere somewhere along the line. So, ladies and gentlemen, we are back different hiatus, whatever you want to call it, but it is only a two man power trip today.

0:43 It is me and mister Monday Night here holding it down. Javan. How are you today, sir? Pretty good? How about yourself? I'll be better. I'll be better when this game is over in terms of because you know the Buffaloes. Buffalo is on primetime, so oh oh that's what That's what. That's nice. Now, I know I don't have to turn on football tonight. Okay, so you put y'all playing play Green Band. I'm definitely not tuning in. I already know how this shit about to go. I'm straight calling a dub. Is that what we think? Huh? So I'm calling a dub? Yeah, I know, yeah, this is about to be a wrong. I'm good. I mean, unless I unless I like hit Twitter at like the fourth quarter and Aaron Rodgers is up, then I'll tune in. But I feel like it's about to be like thirty five The Tan of some bullshit like that. I'm y'all win. This is sickening. This is like a perverse universe that I'm stuck in that I've had to deal with the Patriots winning for so long and then when I think it's my turn, Nope, here's the fucking Bills. The Bills, even the Jets are good this year. It's just like life comes at you fast, man. It does like we had it. We had the world in our hands, and here we are baling with the damn Jets. It's terrible.

2:05 Well, I will say it was a good win, a good win for Miami today at Detroit. It was kind of scary, kind of close. But ultimately, hey, you know, shout out the back that it was close with fucking Detroit right there just tells me where we're at. That just lets me know, Yeah, we stink like fucking uh. That's why I'm glad basketball season here. At least I got something to root for. I'm all, I think I'm a I'm out of football right now. I'll be back from the playoffs. The white Man holding it down in Denver. Yeah, yeah, all right, yeah, that's right, we know, we know you rock with him. Yep. That Jersey's coming in the mail.

2:50 I already know it. It is, it is, it is. I'm gonna get it personally sent from Yo Kis himself. True. True. I mean, hey, you know I'll due respect. So but let's talk about this. Let's talk about this wrestling real quick. Let's get let's get this going. I just wanted to touch base with you, kind of get your idea of the landscapes of what's going on around here. But I gotta start the show by quite congratulating Nick Gage on a successful successful title defense last night versus Leo Rush for the GCW World title. I could dig it. It's kind of a weird fit Leo Russia. Yeah, I'm really trying to put in my mind a Nick Gage Leo Rush mat. It's like they don't sound too good old paper, but it's random. Yeah, it fuck Like I hope it was weapons. If there was weapons, maybe that's what made it good. Oh, there were weapons. There were weapons. At one point, Nick Gauge used the pizza cutter on Leo Rush's forehead. I mean, you already know it was. It was. It was a good time, all right. My tune into that one, DN. Yeah, I mean it's definitely a light. I never thought i'd see your boy Leo Russian, but right, yeah, we're rocking with it. I'm rocking with it at least like I'm always about people expanding horizons. That's the wrong fucking horizon, my boy. So I do want to kind of start the show here by by um asking you about this riff that we saw last night or a shoot

4:25 me not last night Friday night on SmackDown UM. Within the within the within the the table, right within the tribe. M Jusso said that the phrase that I don't think anybody was prepared for to hear him say, Right, Sammy's saying out here playing advocate, playing like you know, I'm out here helping the helping the tribal chief, you know, doing this, doing this, out here doing my thing, and he just wants peace. He wants us to make peace. Right, Jusso responds back real quick with I don't give a damns a quote. I don't give a damn what the tribal cheap thing. And if there's one thing I know about follow the leader is you don't fall out of line anytime soon. And of course, after that sentence was muttered, Roman Reigns, looks up because he was looking down, you know, just letting Sammy talk doing his thing. Looks up immediately, and everybody in the stadium, everybody in the arena knew that Juso done fucked up.

5:29 So let me ask you, are we replaying the beginning of the tribal chief phenomena with Juso versus Roman Reigns all over again. Are we finally gonna get the Sammy match first? Like? What is the endgame with this kind of division? Obviously we've been teasing the Sammy Zane JUSI don't fuck with each other or excuse me, well, Jay don't really fuck with Sammy storyline. But let's say you hold the pencil, what would you prefer? What's going to bring in the money? Where does this end? This ends when he gets kicked out. So you's gonna happen. It's gonna It's gonna happen. Eventually, Sammy's going to get put out the chairs that he gets all the time. It's too hard to ignore that. Eventually you got to turn him baby face, full fledged baby face. It just has to happen, right, I'm not saying he should be the one to knock off rom the Reins.

6:24 Even though I think that would be like the most incredible Rustlemania moment you could deliver, I would feel the same way. It would be the biggest shock victory I think, right, But I feel eventually, at least to Sammy and Kao versus the usos for the titles, eventually that's what we get to. Okay. I would rock with that though, Like I feel like that's a cool callback. I feel like it's a bunch of fun for the fans, especially given the history of Ko and Sammy and the fact that Ko ain't hold a title in four years. Right, it'll all come to a head, and I think that's that's that'd be smart, that'd be smart playing now. So, so you think it's gonna end with that, Now, what do you think Jay has to do to kind of convince Roman of Sammy Zane? Kind of like with these ulterior motives, something's gonna happen. Something's gonna happen, And I think, like the easiest way to go about it.

7:24 You think it might happen at at Saudi Arabia because you know that match is actually next. I believe it's no, no, it's on the eighth in Saudi versus Logan Paul for the title, Nah, because that means Logan have to win. Nah. I really think he has to win. But maybe he actually accidentally helps. It's on Saturday, actually it's a week for six days away. I don't think you pull it. I don't think you pull it that quick. I think you wait to Survivor series. Okay, put them in war games and have Sammon and Jay. The fuck up happens there? Okay, maybe Sammy hits one of them. Maybe he actually hits Roman. M Maybe that's what I think. That's what Ashley has to happen in this thing. Maybe he hits Roman and cost them to victory by Roman losing. Because I think at this point it's going to take Roman getting pissed for something to happen interesting. And that's where you start that turn, I think, because it has to be something that that that triggers it. It ain't nothing. Sammy really ain't done nothing wrong too much yet Jay, but he ain't fucked up on Roman yet. He's always stood up for Roman.

8:46 It's gonna take him doing something for Roman for Roman to be like, all right, maybe he was right right, Maybe he was right Jay, I my bad, let's twit, get this dude out of here, like, because I just think that eventual beatdown is coming. That's what that's what we all brace ourselves for. Like Sammy be interrupting Roman, cutting them off, all this shit that nobody else would do, and he's getting away with it, right exactly. Something's all. It's like, something's gonna happen. It's gonna be like I you can't. You ain't part of this no more. And I think that's when then you run with Sammy as a baby face maybe and then he ain't got no friends but ko, So that's true. Yeah, I mean, m yeah, I mean overall, I am excited about where this is going. It just finally seems like it's it's going in a direction, you know what I mean. It's not just every the same shit every week on Friday, where it's just like these two come into a head all this kind of stuff. But it's obvious that Sammy has this kind of like space rent free in Jay's head, and it's kind of it's just the point now where he's just saying anything outlandish because just hates this dude so much, which is funny. It's it's it's a level of of hating ass that I don't think I've seen in a super long time. So I'm all about it. But I think I can wait till Survivor series. Yeah, and I love how like when Jay Whoso said what he said, it showed me

10:18 like he forgot all those ass swhippings he took, Like he may he may have kind of let it slide now, but he forgot all those ass whippings. And I think, deep down, like right, might want to fight Roman again, Like deep down, like he got all of them, Like like I would not be surprised if they can't get Cody back, but they can't get the rock. How Jay, who's winning the Royal rob I don't even care at this point, but let's just see what happens that dynamic shit. That'd be nuts if I didn't think that there were other people ahead of him that would be better options, I said, right, like like no shade, but like if Riddle wanted, I'd be all hype. So yeah, like it's a good time where he's like a number of people that we see winning the Roar Rumble and we'd be like, okay, well it's the word. It is. It's a very strange time in wrestling too. And I'm glad that you mentioned that because Triple H, you know, in a completely different topic here, Triple H just opened the forbidden door and is letting Chinska Naka more fight wrestle against the Great Mooda m HM at a show in Tokyo so or a show in Japan. So. Now a lot of people obviously are taking this ball and running with it a lot more. And of course Triple H mentioned that he wanted to do a World's Collide show um with NJPW talent in an x T talent. At the time this was you know,

11:48 this was years ago. However, right now that Trips is in charge and stuff, this kind of stuff has, the door is open from more of this stuff to happen. And obviously we know that several n JPW you guys have relationships within WWE, given the Cruiserweight Classic for example, where we've saw guys like Ibushi and guys like Zsjum on WW programming. Do you think that this is like the beginning or do you think this is like an outlier? Um? No, you know what the beginning was, The Good Brothers coming back Okay, that was the beginning right there. And the fact that they're sitting there and it's seemingly working together with this like to me is a very good sign. To me, it's a very good sign. If I'm Aw'm, I'm kind of looking like, hey, what's going on over here?

12:39 Because I don't If I'm dem I don't want New Japan working with WW. I need to keep that all to myself exactly. You know what I'm saying. I don't need them getting a piece of it because it's a bigger, bigger company. They got a far greater reach, and New Japan if they started working with them, they might start looking like, hey, wait a minute, why are we here? What y'all when we could be over here with him? Can way more money getting our reach put out there, way more Like if I'm New Japan, I'm gonna sit there work with WW. Try to get my shows on Peacock. That's what I'm like. Let me get let me get our live Barry on Peacock with y'all. You know what I'm saying, Get our reach out there, expand our reach if if Triple As can pull something like that off, Like all I need to see is Okada one time in w W it's a rap, Like, hey, it's a rap, y'all win, Like that's the long game, bro, that's that Game of Thrones long game, right, But it's just to me, it's just it's it's it's encouraging, that's for sure. But I don't know about Okada yet, you know what I'm saying, because I'm sure like as much as Okada versus Roman, reins would be a banger and would be way better than what we got at Forbidden Door, like no shade. I just I don't see a world where Gato is gonna look at that and be like, yeah, Okada can lose to Roman, Like I just I don't see it. But then again, anything for the right price, right Ted Dibiaci always says it, you know, hell yeah, for the right price, you know, like he gotta who says he gotta lose. See,

14:11 that's the only way I could see it happened. You really think Okada could would actually go over Roman on Peacock? I mean, come on, well, it depends on how how if they could get a multiple mass deal out this. If it's a best of three or maybe a best of two. Maybe you just have Roman at at Dominion or something, right, Like, if you could get like, well, Romanyo don't that to me, that would be the best option. Because if you could do Roman Oda the Tokyo Doman and let Roman lose there at the Tokyo don't to O Cottage, that shouldn't be sick, right, and then you should just come back on Monday, because like I mean, let's be honest, there's only a quarter if that, of the audience that would even look that match up, you know what I'm saying. All right, but if you're like get Okada on your TV for a little bit, that would be huge, you know, and then like let's say, like from there they can book a rematch you know, later on, you know, after that loss and stuff. I could see that that'd be uh, that'd be something interesting. And then of course Roman can win on American soil. But if anyone questions him about it, you could just be like, oh, you know, the flight whatever, blah blah blah, like there's excuses, and like even Paul Hayman could make excuses for him, and Roman won't even talk about it, you know what i mean. Yeah, So it's encouraging. It definitely opens up you know, I always we always lean back on this metaphor, but it does open up that door for for a plethora possibilities. So something to keep an eye on. Um. But my last thing that I wanted to talk about too,

15:41 and this is kind of like will segue us into a ew and stuff. So we finally have some challengers, notable challengers for the NJPW tag titles and FTR right it you're looking at the Great o'con and Jeff CoV of United Empire of challengeef TR to the NJPW Tag Team titles. And let me ask you, so, does this do anything for you personally? Like you're you're familiar with Jeff Cobb and these guys, so you tell you kind of tell me is this going to be worth the hype? Because honestly, FTR is probably on the biggest, hottest run of their lives, so the hottest tag team in the world at this point. Any challenger is going to get a banger out of them. But what can we expect kind of coming out of Con and Cobb. Oh, I think this will be a great match.

16:32 I don't. It has the potential to be as good as is what they've done with maybe Austie Open, okay um, it has that potential. I don't I don't know if he'll he'll reach it. I think it'll be a great match regardless. I just don't know if he'll reach the heights of them versus the Bucks or Austie Open or the Briscos. You know what I'm saying. I don't know if it's gonna reach stat level, but it's gonna be a great match regardless. Like, yeah, you can't go around with Cobb and Okon they are beasts in that ring. Like you think that potentially this will be the potentially this will be where FTR loses one of their belts.

17:15 Nah, okay okay, So, I mean it could be if they if New Japan decides we want to put it on them. But I if I'm dim, I'm trying to get them on the Tokyo Dome. That's what I'm thinking. That's what Yeah, Like I've rated them come into Tokyo Dome, its champs, and if they're gonna lose it, then lose it, don't sure lose it in the world on the biggest show. Yeah, unless unless we unless they already know we can't get them from the Tokyo Dome then go ahead and take the belts off of them, like sure, But then again, I mean that's I mean January normally, so yeah, they should have a fair unders understanding of their schedule at this point. But I do want to kind of segue that into the banger that we saw on Wednesday night on Dynamite between FTR and Swerve and Our Glory. I mean, that's one of the best tag team matches I've seen in them in a while. Yeah, Like just everything, the fucking the way that they were able to get the what is it, the big rig they'ret a big rig Keith Lee all people, which was insane, Like, I dude, I never would have expected that to happen. Ever, I mean it was. It was phenomenal.

18:33 And the crazy part is, I'm gonna be honest with you, that was probably the best match I've seen in person, and it was on TV for free. I've been to a bunch of of of wrestling shows, um, but I gotta say that that's definitely one of the That's probably the best wrestling match I've seen. I've never I've I've like visibly jumped out of my seat a couple of times it shows, but nothing with the enthusiasm that I had for this one. I didn't care who won, but I was just I never wanted it to end. And I know that's kind of cliche to say, but it was like these guys were just going in on each other and it was just it was so nice. And they're still so good at like swerves doing heel shit. Keith Lee doesn't condone the heel stuff, you know what I mean. And then of course on the other end you got Uncle Dax and Cash just going at it and stuff, just just just giving it there all to just try to pin Keith Lee. And then the entire building erupted. I was there, so the entire Chartway Arena and Norfolk just erupted.

19:30 When the acclaim came out. They weren't even wrestling. They were just standing at the top of the ring, standing at the top of the april or the ramp. They everybody was just hot. And then of course on the other end of the of the stadium are the gun Boys and they're just sitting there and cosplay like it's just it was so cool. It was just a fun environment. That match was phenomenal, but Ultimately FTR doesn't get the win, you know what I mean, So Swerve and our Glory get their rematch. And I gotta ask you, was this the right move here or did you want to kind of see a world where FTR gets all the belts at one time? Not yet? Not yet? You don't do you claim they're too hot right now? Of course, I'm not saying, you know, next week or anything, but down the line, like maybe they get their shot. I mean, well, so full Gear is on the it's Full Gear on Saturday as well as Crown Jewel. Let me let me check that that that might be. I might be a little late on that one, so I'm gonna double check real quick. Apologies to anyone that's listening right now. Um think what November or something? No, fifth, November ten?

20:42 Yeah, Um, so it's Full Gear twenty twenty two, and it is obviously in Prudential it's on Oh wow, okay, I'm far off. It is is November nineteenth, so we have time to be this. We have time to book this. However, so you have um one two yeah, so you have roughly two weeks of television, three weeks of television before your show, right, Um, so so you're in the you're in the denomination. This is the right call to have, uh for lack of a better term, black on black crime for the for the Tag Team Championships.

21:25 Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, because I think right now FTR are still good guys. Um. I don't think they really need to do a good team versus good team matches ship okay between them, fr Like, FTR really don't need the belts. They can just show the hell out right now, this is true. Yeah, they're over, They're over as it is. I feel like if the claim gonna lose, it should be the swerve in your glory. Now, if that them did, I would honestly like crazy thing like the ass boys should honestly beat them. Interesting, they really should, just to tie that story up and take it full circle, they should beat them. They should. They should honestly be the ones to knock off the acclaim real quick, like, just to bring that story full circle. They won't do it, but it would be sure it's hell ain't gonna do it, but since then it would be smart for them to do do that.

22:22 But I feel like going with swerving your glory to beat the Acclaim with Keith leef. Just embracing heal them would be a good move. See, I kind of feel like they're they're on the path for divorce. Do you think that that's Yeah, but that's the obvious that's the obvious plan. But I would if it was me, I'm swerving. See what I did there, swerve, And I wouldn't make it where Keith Lee turns heal, Keith Lee embraces this ship, be like, all right, but let's do it. Yeah, year they can pull it off on full gear, even if it's just heelish and the way that they win, Yeah, he's like, look what it got me right, and let let them start embracing that. Because I always I, oh, I feel like Keith Lee should be a heel I know I'm in the minority on that one, but I truly feel like, dude, just by the way he always talks and everything he puts me in the mind of an old he puts me in the mind of Nick Bob Winkle. Oh okay, because that dude used to always just be like chilling, and the way he used to talk and everything talks so fucking smart like a nerd and shit like that's Keith Lee. Like the way he talks.

23:33 He talks so intelligently, like like a fucking nerd and telling you to bask in his glory. That's some heel ass shit. He should be a heel doing this. I like it. And then with the crazy swerve on the side doing all the crazy shit. I like the dynamic. And then you let them be a heel team and they can rip and run and then have FTR beat them. I'm opposed to be if I can see if I can see that match again, Yeah, yeah, why not, especially if they can top it on pay per view. Let's make it happen. You know, I'll due respect and I will tell you this jivon funding note. So after the show, we were able to go over to the to the to the to the out exit wherever we're talent exits out to go to the parking Roger go to the bus or whatever, so castor kind of walks past us whatever. Not that big of a deal. Just wasn't in the mood that kind of thing. Bowen's comes out and scissored your boy. So yeah, I don't have any evidence. You just have to take my word for it.

24:33 I couldn't get the camera out in time because it was kind of a drive by scissor, but I can say that I scissored half of the acclaim. Um, well, you know what, the fact that you are admitting on the airways that you scissored another man, I'm gonna take that as it happened. I'm gonna take your word for it, because no man is going to sit here and they admit the scissoring another man unless it actually happens. So you know what, I believe you. I'll hardly believe you, right And with that, I mean, I'll tell you what. Though we were hype as fun, everybody around me were hyped. Everybody was going so everybody was having a great time. Man. That's one of the things I love about just pro shows in general. Man, everybody just always seems to have a great time. And where to God. I would look at him and be like, man, get your fingers out my fucking jay us this dude, like, yo, you got my two seconds to get your fingers out my face. Dog. So the one thing I couldn't get don't be here by guy like and you you've been vocal about this about your You're not you're disturned, your disdain for their merch currently going in the in the scissor Me, Daddy asks the scissor me Daddy. I would walk into a grocery store and I see some dude wearing a scissor me daddy. I'm grabbing a tomato and I'm throwing it. He had no other shirts to wear out in public.

26:00 Fuck out of here. So they actually have this new merch now it's much more tame, but it's it's the AW logo, pink lettering with a scissor like a pair of scissors over the A as like that triangle triangular over the A, AND's so and it says like that. Well it says something about like only on Wednesdays or something like that, and uh and stuff. So Taranto and I bought two. So we bought two those shirts, but they didn't sell them in person. Um this week was the first week that the it claimed wore them. So we went online and we bought them so him and I don't have to rock those on the on the pods for to see if you approve of this design, Yeah I could. I could rock with that because I could explain away the scissors. I can kind of explain away the scissors like I could be like, hey, this is dedicated to Brutus Beefcake. Yeah, Brutus beefcake style shirt with the scissors. That's what I could explain it. Man, We're good into clear whatever you have to do, but I want to kind of also kind of go into it a little bit more on the show itself. So the first thing that comes to mind whenever I think when I think of my experience in Norfolk this week was it has to be Maxwell Jacob Friedman MJF yet again proving why he's the biggest draw on the roster. Everybody popped for MJF coming out of the break with his music. Renee Paquette was out there doing the interview that kind of thing,

27:32 and of course she looks good. She's doing her thing. Um, I'm not entirely sure her addition to the roster was necessary, but as long as her Man's there, it's all good. You know, we rock with it. But MJF out here, you know, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta. This is the first week where I've truly watched him lean into the face thing, like the heelish face thing like Rick Flarion, And I had this hot take after his segment was done, and I needed your perspective on this because Tron called it a little outlandish, and I told him that the ceiling for MJF at this point is Rick Flair in twenty twenty two, like Rick Flair, but the caveat is that he's in twenty twenty two.

28:22 So if you take Ric Flair from the early nineties and put him into where we are now with MJF, do you kind of see that? Do you? Do you think I'm reaching? What? What do you? What do you? What are your what are you picking up here? I could see it, okay, because all I'm saying is like, look for kids, for kids that are younger that haven't seen this, you know what I mean? This is all they know that. Obviously this is flaying, But it's Flairyan evolved. In my opinion, it's Flairying evolved because the way that he speaks, the way that he tugs on heartstrings, the way that he talks about certain issues within his own personal life, and how it's reflected who he is now and and that kind of thing. It's just it's very personal in a way that I think that very few could pull off. And it's just it's something that's reminds me of what Rick Flair would probably be like if he was in twenty twenty two. Okay, I could see that, and it's it's something. It's just something to keep to tune into. Honestly, it's it's and the thing that kills me. And you're gonna love this because we've talked about this before, when we talked about Adam Cole, we talked about this before. When Cody made his debut on WrestleMania, MJF had everybody in Norfolk in the palm of his hands on that stage. Without a doubt in my mind, there was not a person that did not respond in some way to him. And in his words, now fast forward to twenty twenty

29:56 four, where he's the biggest free agent in wrestling history. Suppose if I'm Nick, if I'm Tony Con, I'm not letting him get to that point. But if I'm Nick Con and Triple H, it's gonna get to that point, right. And my thing is, if you give him the same liberties that he has currently on this roster and in the way that he has his character control and obviously has a say in his own creative and if you give him a platform wherein he can be on TV for almost five hours every single week, whether it's Raw, SmackDown, YouTube, whatever it is. And you put him in an audience at one of the big four shows, whether it be The Rumble, whether it be Mania, whether it be SummerSlam, whether it be a Survivor series, and you let him cut a promo.

30:45 I just feel like that magnitude is multiplied. I can't get over the fact that WWE still feels more like a bigger thing at this point, and like the fact that you know, I can't decide if All Out or Full Year are their biggest shows because Full Gear last year was a fucking banger, you know what I mean. So I just I can't decide whether or not that's their mania or if All Outs their mania. Like I just don't know. But if you put MGF in front of a Mania crowd wherein he can just be himself without that kind of control, it just feels like it's a bigger thing for me. Do you do you kind of see what I'm saying, Well, yeah, yeah, of course, yeah, it's WrestleMania.

31:25 Like you put him in there, like WrestleMania, SummerSlam, all WW like it'd be real. Also, w W shows, okay, they're big four shows feel bigger than anything AW does. M It's like it really do. Like most of there, like as great as AW pay per views, b they generally just have the feeling just a regular pay per view most of the time. Yeah, they don't. None of them give me that feeling. Oh, this is like WrestleMania, right, like like I don't have that feeling to it, Like like the way that we're still trying to decide, like what's the biggest show of the year for A Yeah we still double or nothing, like, yeah, we just don't know. All that was the first one, so I just assume that would be the one that they would want to be their big show. But well GEAR constantly seems to be the best one of the year for them, so I just don't know. Yeah.

32:21 Um, basically, what I'm trying to say is like I don't think MJF can properly reach that ceiling of Rick Flair, of that like of what his character could be unless he gets on a stage like WrestleMania. Yeah, yeah, you're right, Like I mean whole Harley, You're right. It's like and I don't want to say that I love AW. I love AW, but for this particular guy, he's just in the wrong company. Yeah, Like unless a W takes another step soon. Mhmm, that takes him to a whole nother level unless they unless they blow up like WCW did in ninety six. Yeah, he should, he should be over in WW.

33:12 He should leave. He'd get it, Like he'd be a way bigger star being able to come over and be in WW than he would staying in a W. Now, I mean I would get staying at AW. Maybe he can help it grow to get to that point. But that's tough. But on the flip side of that, he's in the same locker room as sting true stayed. Yeah, and a legend, but he could have been a lot bigger, yeah, right, like we get hit him a lot to be Like, man, maybe you should have left brother David Sometimes that you should have bounced like he came over a little bit sooner, Like maybe you wouldn't be in a W right now. You might be right tired, my guy rich, like let's get out of here. Like so, yeah, I get it. It's just something to think about. It's just something to think about. Toron disagreed, but it's something to think about, that's all.

34:12 Yeah. I mean the good thing for him is he's young as fuck. Yeah, he's only twenty six years old. Twenty six, Like he could spend another way two to four years, end depth in a depth and still just be thirty, right and still be when W will still be like, yeah, come on the current trajectory he's on, he's gonna be twenty eight when he's a free agent, right, Like that's young as fuck. I mean AJ came over at thirty nine, right, so it's like he got time. Like if you don't want to go, he can still chill out in a W for another like two three years, be like thirty thirty one and still come over then and still be like one of the biggest stars and could be one of the biggest stars, right unless he unless the only person that can screw him is him at this point, like because he has so much say in his creative, he must have so much say in his creative, Like the only person that can shoot him in the foot is him.

35:07 Yep. Yeah, So it's just something that's it. Don't do nothing stupid, that's oh yeah, I do quick get hurt don't get hurt or do anything stupid. That's true. But quick question for you though, on the topic of MJF. He's winning the title in Jersey, right, I don't know, come on, you gotta he come on, I don't know. Like he's gotta win. He's gotta stokely Hathaway be damned by the way. But despite them not even being around, he should still win unless actually nope, I think I'm picking up on a on a wave here and I don't want to just her and do a different tangent here. But they didn't picking up on this wave of Javan wherein you think that he should lose that that he should lose, and because he tried to earn it clean, he'll never try to do that again. That's a direction. That's a direction.

36:19 Or as usual, this is just all one big sass swerve. They got swerved, really and he's just bullshitting everybody. And he actually lolling John Boxing into a false sense of security to make him really think that a maybe this kid that is is on the up and up, maybe he has changed a little bit. And then boom, when at least expected he cheats. M JAM cheats or the firm interferes, and he's really the heal that we all thought he was. What's the first thing he said when he came back, The greatest trick the devil I report, that was to make you believe he didn't exist? Right, what is he trying to make you believe? Now he's gonna fuck y'all over the moment he gets his first chance and this is what's coming. Well, it's interesting too, because if that's the case, then he's got to be one of the more dedicated people because he got his ass whooped on dynamite. But now you do you gotta make it seem real, got you gotta make it scene real. He got his ass whooped, and the thing is like, shout out to Morrissey, Bro, Morrissey really looks like he's the real deal. Yeah, yeah, you're getting that bad.

37:29 Good for him. Enzo chance be damned like he's overcome. I wouldn't mind him at Enzo back together right now. That shouldn't be lit. Come on, come on, that shouldn't be lit. Aw missing the boat, Go ahead and get zone. Put them back to kathera man, go ahead like we only like big cats by himself. We never have go ahead put him. That's that's why you got Stokely and Mortar. Come on, bro, I don't know. I think i'd rather that Inzo he got enough work. Hey, Stokely got enough work with the mother niggas, like you need to be with them too, like yo, But Ethan Page is the one that's going to benefit the most, I think. Yeah. But another thing that kind of irritates me a little bit too about a ew Right now, So Cassidy finally gets his title, right, he finally gets the All Atlantic Championship, which is like their fifth title. Um, obviously, like he's playing in the character, but he just doesn't seem like he's stoked about being the All Atlantic Champion. Like he don't seem like he's stoked about anything.

38:36 That's true. It's probably a part of the act, but I do want to pay Yeah, an observation I have about fire Ant himself. Um, he looks bigger, Like he looks like he's put on muscle for some reason. Uh, since the since the og uh, since the O G A w Um debut. So I don't know. Maybe it's a little fascinating, Maybe it's a character turn he's trying. I don't know. But if it ain't broke, don't fix it. True, true, and he's still over. So it's just something to keep your eye on for sure. But the last thing I want to talk about um on aw No Sireya in Norfolk, she had a backstage segment wherein she was like where she like told Britt to go fuck off, and then like the women had a long match, like a super long match before the main event, which was Rijo versus Hater, which Tehran was totally totally a fan of. Um and uh. And then of course we say an event. Oh okay, yeah, you said that was the main event. You right, you're right, You're right. So that was the lead into it, but it went over. I don't know what match went short, but they went over. Um, they would definitely went over on time. I mean that's like the women had like twenty minutes.

39:52 It felt like, you know, they had twenty minutes, were a real match. I'm proud, m h. I only like liked it. It's but then I just you know, and then of course, you know, you have to be glued to your seats because you want it to end so you can get to the main event, which was Penta versus Moxley, which ended ended quick too because of the interference at the end. But what the biggest takeaway was is how dangerous and how terrifying penta sit down pile driver really is. Yeah. I watched Moxley's face hit the canvas on that pile driver and squirmed. I was just not a fan of watching that up close.

40:34 Like it was scary. Obviously, I trust Penta obviously all that stuff, but like Bret Hart did the same thing to Steve Austin and it fun. So I'm just saying, I'm just saying, look, I love the pile driver. It looks sick, but like, come on now, not on TV, not on TV, You're gonna kill yourself, cut yourself on pay per view, right, So that's that's the biggest takeaway. Also, Eddie Kingston and Ortis were the main event on Dark Elevation this week, and Ortiz finally getting over this like like came to blows with Eddie about the heel stuff. Because Eddie's been doing some like helish antics, like beating people up, choking them out, doing all that stuff. Ortiz finally stood up to him. So I'm curious if that's going to lead into anything on the main roster, but I don't think so. M Another takeaways from Elevation Athena's O face in person is sick and we should always respect her for doing that move right because they could kill anybody including her. Frankie Kazarian still out here doing Dark Elevation, so shout out to him for chasing the check. Yeah for real getting that a w and pat money all right, we love it, We love it. Also, I watched Dan Housen versus QT Marshall and thought

42:05 about you the entire time. Hey, all right, because the QT Marshall mats all right Marshall and QT Marshall fucking spit on Dan Housen's jacket and proceeded to win. So yeah, all right, QT Marshall victory. That's what I'm talking about. Um yeah, so need let's say it was a very entertaining show, so we had a good time. Um. I do want to talk about one more thing. So, and this is an AW really this is just in general. So lately I've been seeing like different things like within the the wrestling ether and during a w M. During AW they had this weird video package where the elite kind of dissipated from their original pictures of the inaugural press conference and all that kind of stuff. Right, They had some some vocals this this and that whatever. But according to Twitter, their speculation is that they're coming back. They're coming back, just this and that, which obviously leads people to ask the question, what about punk? What about punk? What about punk? Well, I think your sources and my sources are both out here saying the same thing, wherein it's pretty obvious that they're working on a buyout for the remaining like for the remaining time on his deal. And the follow up question that I constantly see to see in the

43:35 rhetoric is well, does that mean that Triple H would welcome him back? And I want to do a little role play here before we close out. Where you are, Papa H? And you got to make the call on Phil? What are you doing? What are you doing? I'm signing Phil Brooks come on back, buddy, And how do you book him? No? But how do you book him? You are the WW creative manager, mister Monday Night. How are you booking Phil Brooks's comeback? When he's he coming back? That's the question. Well, let's say let's say that hurt hurt, right, Yeah, well, okay, let's hurt. Let's say the buyout happens and the clearance happens all after mania around like money in the bank time and like may are you saving that for SummerSlam? Yeah? Is he a part or is he a part timer? Or is he a full time or is he a brock Lessner deal? Um? That would be up to him because you know, truly, if he wants the brock Lessener deal, I'll give him a brock Lesser deal. If he wants to be full time, he can be full time. That's totally up to him. Okay, what do you want to do? Okay, I feel like there's some Saudi potential and see him punk as well? Yeah yeah, yeah, he might want to rock them shows too. Get an extra check, right, That's what I'm saying, Like you know, and knowing what we know about see him punk, I'm sure he would take that check, right, you know, chase the bag, you know it, despite whoever he has to

45:08 wrestle, which if you had to book a couple like matches that you would consider kind of like dreamish matches for him, Like who would be the first person you put them against? Like Rollins maybe like, oh yeah, that's the first name that popped in my mind. Seth Robins. Okay, because I tell you now that the mic work between them two, because Seth Rollins be on his ship sometime. He ain't got no problem mentioned that a w or anybody over there where you like he will get. So I think the promos between them would be great, Like if I had to go like a list, it would be Rollins. I don't think i'd put him with Roman until I think Roman out worrying about Roman yet, So we get through all this title bloodline thing Rhodes, I definitely want something with him and Cody.

45:58 Okay, bad, I ain't get that in aw so let me get that here. He'll pump versus a baby faced code. I rock with that, Okay, And then like I want to see Ko versus brooks On on the mic more than that. Yeah, Like there's a lot like if he came back, there is a like a few matches there. I wouldn't mind seeing him versus Gumfort, like just to see that dynamic, Like I would love to see that. I'd be about it. I wouldn't mind the hell he'll see him punk kind of taken on the New Day either. Oh yeah, given the KOFEE relationship, given a couple of things, like, I feel like there's a lot of potential there too. Yeah, all this will probably never fucking happen. Like, I would be shocked, okay if he would go back, because I honestly and truly I think he'd be more him than Triple. Ah. I don't really think Triple has got that big of a fucking problem with the dude. Like, I know they had their issues, but I don't think is that's serious where a trip was be like, nah, you can't come back. I don't even think like nah, I don't like that much that you can't come back. Nah. I don't even think it's that deep on his end. I think the deepness is on Punk's end.

47:14 It's always been on his end, getting the getting determination papers, the day of his wedding and all that stuff. It's always on his end. So if that's why, I'm like, I would be shot if he would go back, because I feel like if he really truly wanted to go back, he'd probably been back already. He probably would have went Darre instead, aid w like he probably would have tried it. Like, so I would be totally shot if if Triple H could pull it off a booker of the Year, because I think that's just one of those things where I think Punk would go to impact before he goed that we I think you would really shoot this shot over there or just retire, yeah, completely before going back, before willing to go back. But with Vince not being there, I know that that changes things. So I mean, like I said, I don't think it's too deep on Triple h Is end. So if he's willing to sit down and talk the Triple Late, I'm sure Triple Lates could talk him into it. I'm sure if he's sat if they actually just sat down and talk things out, I'm sure he'd come back because I'm sure they could smooth everything over. Sure. Yeah. So I'm thinking that if anybody could pull it off, it would be those two. But they have to sit down, right down. I think the money potential is just too great for them to not at least consider the move. Because, unfortunately for people in the wrestling community, in the online wrestling community specifically, Seampunk always draws right as

48:47 long as he's as long as he draws, he'll always have a place in pro wrestling sphere and if I'm WWE, it's like, yeah, why wouldn't I want to try to capitalize on that, right, Like you know, could you imagine um called a personality hitting at WrestleMania at after Roman defense, after Roman win defends the title successfully and all that's like call a personality hit, Oh my god, that should be crazy. Like that's what I'm saying. Like I just I think about the potential for like when the best time for him to come back would be, And it's just it always kind of leads back into Mania, because if you're gonna ever gonna be Roman versus Cmpunk, it has to be that long awaited Mania main event. Even if he loses, it's that's all he's ever wanted, right, Yeah, So you give him that as his farewell send off. And even if it's just the year of Punk and he's only there for a year and you get the various fews that you want out of it, I think it's worth the investment given the merch alone that you're gonna move exactly. So say what you will about the guy. But I seem to have upon recollection. I have three Yeah, I have three cm punk t shirt. So mm hmm. UM, so there's this. It's just what it is, you know, but hopefully it happens. Hopefully this this upcoming week in wrestling provides more information on the Elite and they're awareabouts. Um, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see the Elite until full gear, not even just competing, just maybe they show

50:22 up in the crowd, you know, like they do at NXT shows. Yeah, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised they just brought them back next week and said, Hey, we're gonna put you in a trio's title match. There you go, go get your belts back right, Like I would be surprised if that just happened. And just like Hi Pop, that's all Like that guy taken els to everybody. Bro just can't catch a break. I just I don't know. To me, personally, nothing in aw none of their problems will be solved until they get a new home for the ROH stuff.

51:07 Personally, get that shit off my Dynamite room, keep it on Rampage and Dart please. Although I will say that Dalton Castle on aw felt right, didn't it It felt right? He just he is such a star and it hurts me that he can't be that on cable. You know what I mean, right. I just find him so unique and so fun to watch, and that match last week against Jericho was really fun and really good. So it is what it is. We rock with our boy, with our boy Dalton Castle on this pod, so do. But anyway, Javan is a quick rundown, quick rundown, just a couple of things I wanted to talk about this, this and that. Obviously we'll be back sometime this week with some more in depth content and stuff, but I just wanted to touch base and kind of talk about some things and a few takeaways I had from from a you and stuff. So thank you for the time, my friend, No problem, No problem. Hopefully boss Man will be not doing homework or whatever the hell he's doing in Hey. I don't know, but I know that we're here for the people because we love our fans. We do.

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