Nov. 1, 2022

Wrestling! Feat. Javon and Jacoby

Wrestling! Feat. Javon and Jacoby

Javon and Jacoby are here to talk about the talking points in wrestling. A little Raw and Smackdown with some AEW to boot! Lets Get It

Javon and Jacoby are here to talk about the talking points in wrestling. A little Raw and Smackdown with some AEW to boot! Lets Get It
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Yes, white lady, my distant
sister or relative at something. She's a

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cousin of song, ain't you must
be must be somewhere somewhere along the line.

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So, ladies and gentlemen, we
are back different hiatus, whatever you

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want to call it, but it
is only a two man power trip today.

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It is me and mister Monday Night
here holding it down. Javan.

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How are you today, sir?
Pretty good? How about yourself? I'll

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be better. I'll be better when
this game is over in terms of because

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you know the Buffaloes. Buffalo is
on primetime, so oh oh that's what

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That's what. That's nice. Now, I know I don't have to turn

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on football tonight. Okay, so
you put y'all playing play Green Band.

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I'm definitely not tuning in. I
already know how this shit about to go.

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I'm straight calling a dub. Is
that what we think? Huh?

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So I'm calling a dub? Yeah, I know, yeah, this is

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about to be a wrong. I'm
good. I mean, unless I unless

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I like hit Twitter at like the
fourth quarter and Aaron Rodgers is up,

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then I'll tune in. But I
feel like it's about to be like thirty

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five The Tan of some bullshit like
that. I'm y'all win. This is

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sickening. This is like a perverse
universe that I'm stuck in that I've had

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to deal with the Patriots winning for
so long and then when I think it's

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my turn, Nope, here's the
fucking Bills. The Bills, even the

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Jets are good this year. It's
just like life comes at you fast,

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man. It does like we had
it. We had the world in our

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hands, and here we are baling
with the damn Jets. It's terrible.

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Well, I will say it was
a good win, a good win for

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Miami today at Detroit. It was
kind of scary, kind of close.

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But ultimately, hey, you know, shout out the back that it was

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close with fucking Detroit right there just
tells me where we're at. That just

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lets me know, Yeah, we
stink like fucking uh. That's why I'm

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glad basketball season here. At least
I got something to root for. I'm

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all, I think I'm a I'm
out of football right now. I'll be

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back from the playoffs. The white
Man holding it down in Denver. Yeah,

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yeah, all right, yeah,
that's right, we know, we

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know you rock with him. Yep. That Jersey's coming in the mail.

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I already know it. It is, it is, it is. I'm

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gonna get it personally sent from Yo
Kis himself. True. True. I

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mean, hey, you know I'll
due respect. So but let's talk about

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this. Let's talk about this wrestling
real quick. Let's get let's get this

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going. I just wanted to touch
base with you, kind of get your

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idea of the landscapes of what's going
on around here. But I gotta start

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the show by quite congratulating Nick Gage
on a successful successful title defense last night

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versus Leo Rush for the GCW World
title. I could dig it. It's

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kind of a weird fit Leo Russia. Yeah, I'm really trying to put

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in my mind a Nick Gage Leo
Rush mat. It's like they don't sound

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too good old paper, but it's
random. Yeah, it fuck Like I

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hope it was weapons. If there
was weapons, maybe that's what made it

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good. Oh, there were weapons. There were weapons. At one point,

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Nick Gauge used the pizza cutter on
Leo Rush's forehead. I mean,

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you already know it was. It
was. It was a good time,

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all right. My tune into that
one, DN. Yeah, I mean

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it's definitely a light. I never
thought i'd see your boy Leo Russian,

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but right, yeah, we're rocking
with it. I'm rocking with it at

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least like I'm always about people expanding
horizons. That's the wrong fucking horizon,

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my boy. So I do want
to kind of start the show here by

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by um asking you about this riff
that we saw last night or a shoot

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me not last night Friday night on
SmackDown UM. Within the within the within

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the the table, right within the
tribe. M Jusso said that the phrase

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that I don't think anybody was prepared
for to hear him say, Right,

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Sammy's saying out here playing advocate,
playing like you know, I'm out here

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helping the helping the tribal chief,
you know, doing this, doing this,

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out here doing my thing, and
he just wants peace. He wants

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us to make peace. Right,
Jusso responds back real quick with I don't

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give a damns a quote. I
don't give a damn what the tribal cheap

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thing. And if there's one thing
I know about follow the leader is you

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don't fall out of line anytime soon. And of course, after that sentence

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was muttered, Roman Reigns, looks
up because he was looking down, you

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know, just letting Sammy talk doing
his thing. Looks up immediately, and

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everybody in the stadium, everybody in
the arena knew that Juso done fucked up.

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So let me ask you, are
we replaying the beginning of the tribal

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chief phenomena with Juso versus Roman Reigns
all over again. Are we finally gonna

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get the Sammy match first? Like? What is the endgame with this kind

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of division? Obviously we've been teasing
the Sammy Zane JUSI don't fuck with each

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other or excuse me, well,
Jay don't really fuck with Sammy storyline.

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But let's say you hold the pencil, what would you prefer? What's going

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to bring in the money? Where
does this end? This ends when he

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gets kicked out. So you's gonna
happen. It's gonna It's gonna happen.

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Eventually, Sammy's going to get put
out the chairs that he gets all the

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time. It's too hard to ignore
that. Eventually you got to turn him

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baby face, full fledged baby face. It just has to happen, right,

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I'm not saying he should be the
one to knock off rom the Reins.

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Even though I think that would be
like the most incredible Rustlemania moment you

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could deliver, I would feel the
same way. It would be the biggest

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shock victory I think, right,
But I feel eventually, at least to

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Sammy and Kao versus the usos for
the titles, eventually that's what we get

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to. Okay. I would rock
with that though, Like I feel like

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that's a cool callback. I feel
like it's a bunch of fun for the

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fans, especially given the history of
Ko and Sammy and the fact that Ko

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ain't hold a title in four years. Right, it'll all come to a

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head, and I think that's that's
that'd be smart, that'd be smart playing

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now. So, so you think
it's gonna end with that, Now,

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what do you think Jay has to
do to kind of convince Roman of Sammy

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Zane? Kind of like with these
ulterior motives, something's gonna happen. Something's

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gonna happen, And I think,
like the easiest way to go about it.

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You think it might happen at at
Saudi Arabia because you know that match

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is actually next. I believe it's
no, no, it's on the eighth

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in Saudi versus Logan Paul for the
title, Nah, because that means Logan

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have to win. Nah. I
really think he has to win. But

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maybe he actually accidentally helps. It's
on Saturday, actually it's a week for

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six days away. I don't think
you pull it. I don't think you

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pull it that quick. I think
you wait to Survivor series. Okay,

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put them in war games and have
Sammon and Jay. The fuck up happens

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there? Okay, maybe Sammy hits
one of them. Maybe he actually hits

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Roman. M Maybe that's what I
think. That's what Ashley has to happen

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in this thing. Maybe he hits
Roman and cost them to victory by Roman

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losing. Because I think at this
point it's going to take Roman getting pissed

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for something to happen interesting. And
that's where you start that turn, I

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think, because it has to be
something that that that triggers it. It

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ain't nothing. Sammy really ain't done
nothing wrong too much yet Jay, but

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he ain't fucked up on Roman yet. He's always stood up for Roman.

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It's gonna take him doing something for
Roman for Roman to be like, all

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right, maybe he was right right, Maybe he was right Jay, I

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my bad, let's twit, get
this dude out of here, like,

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because I just think that eventual beatdown
is coming. That's what that's what we

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all brace ourselves for. Like Sammy
be interrupting Roman, cutting them off,

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all this shit that nobody else would
do, and he's getting away with it,

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right exactly. Something's all. It's
like, something's gonna happen. It's

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gonna be like I you can't.
You ain't part of this no more.

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And I think that's when then you
run with Sammy as a baby face maybe

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and then he ain't got no friends
but ko, So that's true. Yeah,

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I mean, m yeah, I
mean overall, I am excited about

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where this is going. It just
finally seems like it's it's going in a

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direction, you know what I mean. It's not just every the same shit

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every week on Friday, where it's
just like these two come into a head

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all this kind of stuff. But
it's obvious that Sammy has this kind of

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like space rent free in Jay's head, and it's kind of it's just the

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point now where he's just saying anything
outlandish because just hates this dude so much,

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which is funny. It's it's it's
a level of of hating ass that

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I don't think I've seen in a
super long time. So I'm all about

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it. But I think I can
wait till Survivor series. Yeah, and

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I love how like when Jay Whoso
said what he said, it showed me

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like he forgot all those ass swhippings
he took, Like he may he may

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have kind of let it slide now, but he forgot all those ass whippings.

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And I think, deep down,
like right, might want to fight

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Roman again, Like deep down,
like he got all of them, Like

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like I would not be surprised if
they can't get Cody back, but they

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can't get the rock. How Jay, who's winning the Royal rob I don't

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even care at this point, but
let's just see what happens that dynamic shit.

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That'd be nuts if I didn't think
that there were other people ahead of

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him that would be better options,
I said, right, like like no

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shade, but like if Riddle wanted, I'd be all hype. So yeah,

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like it's a good time where he's
like a number of people that we

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see winning the Roar Rumble and we'd
be like, okay, well it's the

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word. It is. It's a
very strange time in wrestling too. And

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I'm glad that you mentioned that because
Triple H, you know, in a

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completely different topic here, Triple H
just opened the forbidden door and is letting

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Chinska Naka more fight wrestle against the
Great Mooda m HM at a show in

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Tokyo so or a show in Japan. So. Now a lot of people

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obviously are taking this ball and running
with it a lot more. And of

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course Triple H mentioned that he wanted
to do a World's Collide show um with

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NJPW talent in an x T talent. At the time this was you know,

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this was years ago. However,
right now that Trips is in charge

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and stuff, this kind of stuff
has, the door is open from more

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of this stuff to happen. And
obviously we know that several n JPW you

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guys have relationships within WWE, given
the Cruiserweight Classic for example, where we've

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saw guys like Ibushi and guys like
Zsjum on WW programming. Do you think

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that this is like the beginning or
do you think this is like an outlier?

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Um? No, you know what
the beginning was, The Good Brothers

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coming back Okay, that was the
beginning right there. And the fact that

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they're sitting there and it's seemingly working
together with this like to me is a

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very good sign. To me,
it's a very good sign. If I'm

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Aw'm, I'm kind of looking like, hey, what's going on over here?

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Because I don't If I'm dem I
don't want New Japan working with WW.

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I need to keep that all to
myself exactly. You know what I'm

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saying. I don't need them getting
a piece of it because it's a bigger,

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bigger company. They got a far
greater reach, and New Japan if

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they started working with them, they
might start looking like, hey, wait

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a minute, why are we here? What y'all when we could be over

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here with him? Can way more
money getting our reach put out there,

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way more Like if I'm New Japan, I'm gonna sit there work with WW.

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Try to get my shows on Peacock. That's what I'm like. Let

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me get let me get our live
Barry on Peacock with y'all. You know

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what I'm saying, Get our reach
out there, expand our reach if if

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Triple As can pull something like that
off, Like all I need to see

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is Okada one time in w W
it's a rap, Like, hey,

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it's a rap, y'all win,
Like that's the long game, bro,

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that's that Game of Thrones long game, right, But it's just to me,

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it's just it's it's it's encouraging,
that's for sure. But I don't

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know about Okada yet, you know
what I'm saying, because I'm sure like

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as much as Okada versus Roman,
reins would be a banger and would be

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way better than what we got at
Forbidden Door, like no shade. I

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just I don't see a world where
Gato is gonna look at that and be

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like, yeah, Okada can lose
to Roman, Like I just I don't

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see it. But then again,
anything for the right price, right Ted

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Dibiaci always says it, you know, hell yeah, for the right price,

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you know, like he gotta who
says he gotta lose. See,

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that's the only way I could see
it happened. You really think Okada could

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would actually go over Roman on Peacock? I mean, come on, well,

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it depends on how how if they
could get a multiple mass deal out

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this. If it's a best of
three or maybe a best of two.

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Maybe you just have Roman at at
Dominion or something, right, Like,

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if you could get like, well, Romanyo don't that to me, that

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would be the best option. Because
if you could do Roman Oda the Tokyo

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Doman and let Roman lose there at
the Tokyo don't to O Cottage, that

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shouldn't be sick, right, and
then you should just come back on Monday,

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because like I mean, let's be
honest, there's only a quarter if

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that, of the audience that would
even look that match up, you know

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what I'm saying. All right,
but if you're like get Okada on your

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TV for a little bit, that
would be huge, you know, and

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then like let's say, like from
there they can book a rematch you know,

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later on, you know, after
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see that that'd be uh, that'd
be something interesting. And then of course

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Roman can win on American soil.
But if anyone questions him about it,

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you could just be like, oh, you know, the flight whatever,

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blah blah blah, like there's excuses, and like even Paul Hayman could make

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excuses for him, and Roman won't
even talk about it, you know what

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i mean. Yeah, So it's
encouraging. It definitely opens up you know,

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I always we always lean back on
this metaphor, but it does open

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up that door for for a plethora
possibilities. So something to keep an eye

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on. Um. But my last
thing that I wanted to talk about too,

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and this is kind of like will
segue us into a ew and stuff.

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So we finally have some challengers,
notable challengers for the NJPW tag titles

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and FTR right it you're looking at
the Great o'con and Jeff CoV of United

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Empire of challengeef TR to the NJPW
Tag Team titles. And let me ask

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you, so, does this do
anything for you personally? Like you're you're

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familiar with Jeff Cobb and these guys, so you tell you kind of tell

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me is this going to be worth
the hype? Because honestly, FTR is

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probably on the biggest, hottest run
of their lives, so the hottest tag

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team in the world at this point. Any challenger is going to get a

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banger out of them. But what
can we expect kind of coming out of

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Con and Cobb. Oh, I
think this will be a great match.

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I don't. It has the potential
to be as good as is what they've

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done with maybe Austie Open, okay
um, it has that potential. I

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don't I don't know if he'll he'll
reach it. I think it'll be a

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great match regardless. I just don't
know if he'll reach the heights of them

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versus the Bucks or Austie Open or
the Briscos. You know what I'm saying.

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I don't know if it's gonna reach
stat level, but it's gonna be

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a great match regardless. Like,
yeah, you can't go around with Cobb

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and Okon they are beasts in that
ring. Like you think that potentially this

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will be the potentially this will be
where FTR loses one of their belts.

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Nah, okay okay, So,
I mean it could be if they if

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New Japan decides we want to put
it on them. But I if I'm

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dim, I'm trying to get them
on the Tokyo Dome. That's what I'm

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thinking. That's what Yeah, Like
I've rated them come into Tokyo Dome,

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its champs, and if they're gonna
lose it, then lose it, don't

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sure lose it in the world on
the biggest show. Yeah, unless unless

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we unless they already know we can't
get them from the Tokyo Dome then go

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ahead and take the belts off of
them, like sure, But then again,

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I mean that's I mean January normally, so yeah, they should have

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a fair unders understanding of their schedule
at this point. But I do want

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to kind of segue that into the
banger that we saw on Wednesday night on

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Dynamite between FTR and Swerve and Our
Glory. I mean, that's one of

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the best tag team matches I've seen
in them in a while. Yeah,

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Like just everything, the fucking the
way that they were able to get the

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what is it, the big rig
they'ret a big rig Keith Lee all people,

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which was insane, Like, I
dude, I never would have expected

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that to happen. Ever, I
mean it was. It was phenomenal.

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And the crazy part is, I'm
gonna be honest with you, that was

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probably the best match I've seen in
person, and it was on TV for

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free. I've been to a bunch
of of of wrestling shows, um,

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but I gotta say that that's definitely
one of the That's probably the best wrestling

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match I've seen. I've never I've
I've like visibly jumped out of my seat

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a couple of times it shows,
but nothing with the enthusiasm that I had

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for this one. I didn't care
who won, but I was just I

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never wanted it to end. And
I know that's kind of cliche to say,

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but it was like these guys were
just going in on each other and

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it was just it was so nice. And they're still so good at like

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swerves doing heel shit. Keith Lee
doesn't condone the heel stuff, you know

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what I mean. And then of
course on the other end you got Uncle

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Dax and Cash just going at it
and stuff, just just just giving it

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there all to just try to pin
Keith Lee. And then the entire building

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erupted. I was there, so
the entire Chartway Arena and Norfolk just erupted.

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When the acclaim came out. They
weren't even wrestling. They were just

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standing at the top of the ring, standing at the top of the april

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or the ramp. They everybody was
just hot. And then of course on

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the other end of the of the
stadium are the gun Boys and they're just

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sitting there and cosplay like it's just
it was so cool. It was just

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a fun environment. That match was
phenomenal, but Ultimately FTR doesn't get the

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win, you know what I mean, So Swerve and our Glory get their

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rematch. And I gotta ask you, was this the right move here or

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did you want to kind of see
a world where FTR gets all the belts

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at one time? Not yet?
Not yet? You don't do you claim

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they're too hot right now? Of
course, I'm not saying, you know,

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next week or anything, but down
the line, like maybe they get

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their shot. I mean, well, so full Gear is on the it's

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Full Gear on Saturday as well as
Crown Jewel. Let me let me check

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that that that might be. I
might be a little late on that one,

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so I'm gonna double check real quick. Apologies to anyone that's listening right

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now. Um think what November or
something? No, fifth, November ten?

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Yeah, Um, so it's Full
Gear twenty twenty two, and it

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is obviously in Prudential it's on Oh
wow, okay, I'm far off.

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It is is November nineteenth, so
we have time to be this. We

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have time to book this. However, so you have um one two yeah,

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so you have roughly two weeks of
television, three weeks of television before

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your show, right, Um,
so so you're in the you're in the

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denomination. This is the right call
to have, uh for lack of a

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better term, black on black crime
for the for the Tag Team Championships.

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Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, because
I think right now FTR are still good

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guys. Um. I don't think
they really need to do a good team

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versus good team matches ship okay between
them, fr Like, FTR really don't

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need the belts. They can just
show the hell out right now, this

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is true. Yeah, they're over, They're over as it is. I

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feel like if the claim gonna lose, it should be the swerve in your

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glory. Now, if that them
did, I would honestly like crazy thing

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like the ass boys should honestly beat
them. Interesting, they really should,

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just to tie that story up and
take it full circle, they should beat

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them. They should. They should
honestly be the ones to knock off the

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acclaim real quick, like, just
to bring that story full circle. They

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won't do it, but it would
be sure it's hell ain't gonna do it,

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but since then it would be smart
for them to do do that.

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But I feel like going with swerving
your glory to beat the Acclaim with Keith

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leef. Just embracing heal them would
be a good move. See, I

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kind of feel like they're they're on
the path for divorce. Do you think

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that that's Yeah, but that's the
obvious that's the obvious plan. But I

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would if it was me, I'm
swerving. See what I did there,

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swerve, And I wouldn't make it
where Keith Lee turns heal, Keith Lee

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embraces this ship, be like,
all right, but let's do it.

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Yeah, year they can pull it
off on full gear, even if it's

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just heelish and the way that they
win, Yeah, he's like, look

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what it got me right, and
let let them start embracing that. Because

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I always I, oh, I
feel like Keith Lee should be a heel

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I know I'm in the minority on
that one, but I truly feel like,

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dude, just by the way he
always talks and everything he puts me

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in the mind of an old he
puts me in the mind of Nick Bob

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Winkle. Oh okay, because that
dude used to always just be like chilling,

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and the way he used to talk
and everything talks so fucking smart like

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a nerd and shit like that's Keith
Lee. Like the way he talks.

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He talks so intelligently, like like
a fucking nerd and telling you to bask

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in his glory. That's some heel
ass shit. He should be a heel

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doing this. I like it.
And then with the crazy swerve on the

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side doing all the crazy shit.
I like the dynamic. And then you

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let them be a heel team and
they can rip and run and then have

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FTR beat them. I'm opposed to
be if I can see if I can

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see that match again, Yeah,
yeah, why not, especially if they

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can top it on pay per view. Let's make it happen. You know,

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I'll due respect and I will tell
you this jivon funding note. So

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after the show, we were able
to go over to the to the to

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the to the out exit wherever we're
talent exits out to go to the parking

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Roger go to the bus or whatever, so castor kind of walks past us

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whatever. Not that big of a
deal. Just wasn't in the mood that

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kind of thing. Bowen's comes out
and scissored your boy. So yeah,

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I don't have any evidence. You
just have to take my word for it.

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I couldn't get the camera out in
time because it was kind of a

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drive by scissor, but I can
say that I scissored half of the acclaim.

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Um, well, you know what, the fact that you are admitting

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on the airways that you scissored another
man, I'm gonna take that as it

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happened. I'm gonna take your word
for it, because no man is going

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to sit here and they admit the
scissoring another man unless it actually happens.

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So you know what, I believe
you. I'll hardly believe you, right

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And with that, I mean,
I'll tell you what. Though we were

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hype as fun, everybody around me
were hyped. Everybody was going so everybody

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was having a great time. Man. That's one of the things I love

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about just pro shows in general.
Man, everybody just always seems to have

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a great time. And where to
God. I would look at him and

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be like, man, get your
fingers out my fucking jay us this dude,

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like, yo, you got my
two seconds to get your fingers out

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my face. Dog. So the
one thing I couldn't get don't be here

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by guy like and you you've been
vocal about this about your You're not you're

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disturned, your disdain for their merch
currently going in the in the scissor Me,

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Daddy asks the scissor me Daddy.
I would walk into a grocery store

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and I see some dude wearing a
scissor me daddy. I'm grabbing a tomato

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and I'm throwing it. He had
no other shirts to wear out in public.

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Fuck out of here. So they
actually have this new merch now it's

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much more tame, but it's it's
the AW logo, pink lettering with a

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scissor like a pair of scissors over
the A as like that triangle triangular over

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the A, AND's so and it
says like that. Well it says something

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about like only on Wednesdays or something
like that, and uh and stuff.

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So Taranto and I bought two.
So we bought two those shirts, but

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they didn't sell them in person.
Um this week was the first week that

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the it claimed wore them. So
we went online and we bought them so

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him and I don't have to rock
those on the on the pods for to

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see if you approve of this design, Yeah I could. I could rock

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with that because I could explain away
the scissors. I can kind of explain

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away the scissors like I could be
like, hey, this is dedicated to

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Brutus Beefcake. Yeah, Brutus beefcake
style shirt with the scissors. That's what

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I could explain it. Man,
We're good into clear whatever you have to

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do, but I want to kind
of also kind of go into it a

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little bit more on the show itself. So the first thing that comes to

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mind whenever I think when I think
of my experience in Norfolk this week was

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it has to be Maxwell Jacob Friedman
MJF yet again proving why he's the biggest

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draw on the roster. Everybody popped
for MJF coming out of the break with

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his music. Renee Paquette was out
there doing the interview that kind of thing,

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and of course she looks good.
She's doing her thing. Um,

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I'm not entirely sure her addition to
the roster was necessary, but as long

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as her Man's there, it's all
good. You know, we rock with

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it. But MJF out here,
you know, I gotta, I gotta,

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I gotta. This is the first
week where I've truly watched him lean

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into the face thing, like the
heelish face thing like Rick Flarion, And

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I had this hot take after his
segment was done, and I needed your

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perspective on this because Tron called it
a little outlandish, and I told him

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that the ceiling for MJF at this
point is Rick Flair in twenty twenty two,

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like Rick Flair, but the caveat
is that he's in twenty twenty two.

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So if you take Ric Flair from
the early nineties and put him into

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where we are now with MJF,
do you kind of see that? Do

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you? Do you think I'm reaching? What? What do you? What

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do you? What are your what
are you picking up here? I could

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see it, okay, because all
I'm saying is like, look for kids,

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for kids that are younger that haven't
seen this, you know what I

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mean? This is all they know
that. Obviously this is flaying, But

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it's Flairyan evolved. In my opinion, it's Flairying evolved because the way that

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he speaks, the way that he
tugs on heartstrings, the way that he

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talks about certain issues within his own
personal life, and how it's reflected who

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he is now and and that kind
of thing. It's just it's very personal

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in a way that I think that
very few could pull off. And it's

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just it's something that's reminds me of
what Rick Flair would probably be like if

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he was in twenty twenty two.
Okay, I could see that, and

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it's it's something. It's just something
to keep to tune into. Honestly,

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it's it's and the thing that kills
me. And you're gonna love this because

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we've talked about this before, when
we talked about Adam Cole, we talked

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about this before. When Cody made
his debut on WrestleMania, MJF had everybody

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in Norfolk in the palm of his
hands on that stage. Without a doubt

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00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:49.960
in my mind, there was not
a person that did not respond in some

401
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:56.920
way to him. And in his
words, now fast forward to twenty twenty

402
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.000
four, where he's the biggest free
agent in wrestling history. Suppose if I'm

403
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.759
Nick, if I'm Tony Con,
I'm not letting him get to that point.

404
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:07.640
But if I'm Nick Con and Triple
H, it's gonna get to that

405
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:11.839
point, right. And my thing
is, if you give him the same

406
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.799
liberties that he has currently on this
roster and in the way that he has

407
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:21.480
his character control and obviously has a
say in his own creative and if you

408
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:27.400
give him a platform wherein he can
be on TV for almost five hours every

409
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:33.079
single week, whether it's Raw,
SmackDown, YouTube, whatever it is.

410
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:37.559
And you put him in an audience
at one of the big four shows,

411
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:41.359
whether it be The Rumble, whether
it be Mania, whether it be SummerSlam,

412
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.319
whether it be a Survivor series,
and you let him cut a promo.

413
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.400
I just feel like that magnitude is
multiplied. I can't get over the

414
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:53.640
fact that WWE still feels more like
a bigger thing at this point, and

415
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:59.839
like the fact that you know,
I can't decide if All Out or Full

416
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.279
Year are their biggest shows because Full
Gear last year was a fucking banger,

417
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.160
you know what I mean. So
I just I can't decide whether or not

418
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:11.440
that's their mania or if All Outs
their mania. Like I just don't know.

419
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.240
But if you put MGF in front
of a Mania crowd wherein he can

420
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.000
just be himself without that kind of
control, it just feels like it's a

421
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:19.559
bigger thing for me. Do you
do you kind of see what I'm saying,

422
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:25.759
Well, yeah, yeah, of
course, yeah, it's WrestleMania.

423
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:29.680
Like you put him in there,
like WrestleMania, SummerSlam, all WW like

424
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:33.480
it'd be real. Also, w
W shows, okay, they're big four

425
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:40.519
shows feel bigger than anything AW does. M It's like it really do.

426
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:44.359
Like most of there, like as
great as AW pay per views, b

427
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.160
they generally just have the feeling just
a regular pay per view most of the

428
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:52.640
time. Yeah, they don't.
None of them give me that feeling.

429
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.680
Oh, this is like WrestleMania,
right, like like I don't have that

430
00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.519
feeling to it, Like like the
way that we're still trying to decide,

431
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:05.559
like what's the biggest show of the
year for A Yeah we still double or

432
00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:09.640
nothing, like, yeah, we
just don't know. All that was the

433
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:13.240
first one, so I just assume
that would be the one that they would

434
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:16.519
want to be their big show.
But well GEAR constantly seems to be the

435
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:20.960
best one of the year for them, so I just don't know. Yeah.

436
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:24.680
Um, basically, what I'm trying
to say is like I don't think

437
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:30.759
MJF can properly reach that ceiling of
Rick Flair, of that like of what

438
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:40.839
his character could be unless he gets
on a stage like WrestleMania. Yeah,

439
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:45.240
yeah, you're right, Like I
mean whole Harley, You're right. It's

440
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:50.200
like and I don't want to say
that I love AW. I love AW,

441
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:55.599
but for this particular guy, he's
just in the wrong company. Yeah,

442
00:32:55.599 --> 00:33:00.680
Like unless a W takes another step
soon. Mhmm, that takes him

443
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:07.680
to a whole nother level unless they
unless they blow up like WCW did in

444
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:12.359
ninety six. Yeah, he should, he should be over in WW.

445
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:15.079
He should leave. He'd get it, Like he'd be a way bigger star

446
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:21.160
being able to come over and be
in WW than he would staying in a

447
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:23.319
W. Now, I mean I
would get staying at AW. Maybe he

448
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:30.319
can help it grow to get to
that point. But that's tough. But

449
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:34.839
on the flip side of that,
he's in the same locker room as sting

450
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:43.559
true stayed. Yeah, and a
legend, but he could have been a

451
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.119
lot bigger, yeah, right,
like we get hit him a lot to

452
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:51.839
be Like, man, maybe you
should have left brother David Sometimes that you

453
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:57.599
should have bounced like he came over
a little bit sooner, Like maybe you

454
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.559
wouldn't be in a W right now. You might be right tired, my

455
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:05.720
guy rich, like let's get out
of here. Like so, yeah,

456
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:07.920
I get it. It's just something
to think about. It's just something to

457
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:12.280
think about. Toron disagreed, but
it's something to think about, that's all.

458
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:15.639
Yeah. I mean the good thing
for him is he's young as fuck.

459
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:20.599
Yeah, he's only twenty six years
old. Twenty six, Like he

460
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.880
could spend another way two to four
years, end depth in a depth and

461
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:28.960
still just be thirty, right and
still be when W will still be like,

462
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:34.000
yeah, come on the current trajectory
he's on, he's gonna be twenty

463
00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:37.000
eight when he's a free agent,
right, Like that's young as fuck.

464
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:42.039
I mean AJ came over at thirty
nine, right, so it's like he

465
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:44.639
got time. Like if you don't
want to go, he can still chill

466
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.440
out in a W for another like
two three years, be like thirty thirty

467
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:52.320
one and still come over then and
still be like one of the biggest stars

468
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.239
and could be one of the biggest
stars, right unless he unless the only

469
00:34:55.280 --> 00:35:01.280
person that can screw him is him
at this point, like because he has

470
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:05.079
so much say in his creative,
he must have so much say in his

471
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.519
creative, Like the only person that
can shoot him in the foot is him.

472
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:13.800
Yep. Yeah, So it's just
something that's it. Don't do nothing

473
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:17.000
stupid, that's oh yeah, I
do quick get hurt don't get hurt or

474
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:21.239
do anything stupid. That's true.
But quick question for you though, on

475
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:31.320
the topic of MJF. He's winning
the title in Jersey, right, I

476
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:38.840
don't know, come on, you
gotta he come on, I don't know.

477
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:47.039
Like he's gotta win. He's gotta
stokely Hathaway be damned by the way.

478
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:55.920
But despite them not even being around, he should still win unless actually

479
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:59.239
nope, I think I'm picking up
on a on a wave here and I

480
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:01.039
don't want to just her and do
a different tangent here. But they didn't

481
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:05.639
picking up on this wave of Javan
wherein you think that he should lose that

482
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:09.039
that he should lose, and because
he tried to earn it clean, he'll

483
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:17.519
never try to do that again.
That's a direction. That's a direction.

484
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:23.639
Or as usual, this is just
all one big sass swerve. They got

485
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:30.480
swerved, really and he's just bullshitting
everybody. And he actually lolling John Boxing

486
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:35.280
into a false sense of security to
make him really think that a maybe this

487
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.599
kid that is is on the up
and up, maybe he has changed a

488
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:44.639
little bit. And then boom,
when at least expected he cheats. M

489
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:51.400
JAM cheats or the firm interferes,
and he's really the heal that we all

490
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:53.320
thought he was. What's the first
thing he said when he came back,

491
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:58.000
The greatest trick the devil I report, that was to make you believe he

492
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:00.280
didn't exist? Right, what is
he trying to make you believe? Now

493
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:07.800
he's gonna fuck y'all over the moment
he gets his first chance and this is

494
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:09.960
what's coming. Well, it's interesting
too, because if that's the case,

495
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:13.599
then he's got to be one of
the more dedicated people because he got his

496
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:17.039
ass whooped on dynamite. But now
you do you gotta make it seem real,

497
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:21.599
got you gotta make it scene real. He got his ass whooped,

498
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:23.599
and the thing is like, shout
out to Morrissey, Bro, Morrissey really

499
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:28.960
looks like he's the real deal.
Yeah, yeah, you're getting that bad.

500
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:35.280
Good for him. Enzo chance be
damned like he's overcome. I wouldn't

501
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:37.559
mind him at Enzo back together right
now. That shouldn't be lit. Come

502
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:42.559
on, come on, that shouldn't
be lit. Aw missing the boat,

503
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:45.079
Go ahead and get zone. Put
them back to kathera man, go ahead

504
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:49.599
like we only like big cats by
himself. We never have go ahead put

505
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:52.559
him. That's that's why you got
Stokely and Mortar. Come on, bro,

506
00:37:54.159 --> 00:38:00.599
I don't know. I think i'd
rather that Inzo he got enough work.

507
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:04.000
Hey, Stokely got enough work with
the mother niggas, like you need

508
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:07.800
to be with them too, like
yo, But Ethan Page is the one

509
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:12.639
that's going to benefit the most,
I think. Yeah. But another thing

510
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:15.679
that kind of irritates me a little
bit too about a ew Right now,

511
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.920
So Cassidy finally gets his title,
right, he finally gets the All Atlantic

512
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:25.320
Championship, which is like their fifth
title. Um, obviously, like he's

513
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:29.480
playing in the character, but he
just doesn't seem like he's stoked about being

514
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:35.239
the All Atlantic Champion. Like he
don't seem like he's stoked about anything.

515
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:37.519
That's true. It's probably a part
of the act, but I do want

516
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:43.760
to pay Yeah, an observation I
have about fire Ant himself. Um,

517
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:47.039
he looks bigger, Like he looks
like he's put on muscle for some reason.

518
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:52.199
Uh, since the since the og
uh, since the O G A

519
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:57.639
w Um debut. So I don't
know. Maybe it's a little fascinating,

520
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.880
Maybe it's a character turn he's trying. I don't know. But if it

521
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:05.480
ain't broke, don't fix it.
True, true, and he's still over.

522
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.440
So it's just something to keep your
eye on for sure. But the

523
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:14.599
last thing I want to talk about
um on aw No Sireya in Norfolk,

524
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:19.800
she had a backstage segment wherein she
was like where she like told Britt to

525
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:23.159
go fuck off, and then like
the women had a long match, like

526
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:27.800
a super long match before the main
event, which was Rijo versus Hater,

527
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:37.880
which Tehran was totally totally a fan
of. Um and uh. And then

528
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:40.800
of course we say an event.
Oh okay, yeah, you said that

529
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:43.599
was the main event. You right, you're right, You're right. So

530
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:45.639
that was the lead into it,
but it went over. I don't know

531
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:50.000
what match went short, but they
went over. Um, they would definitely

532
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:52.960
went over on time. I mean
that's like the women had like twenty minutes.

533
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.360
It felt like, you know,
they had twenty minutes, were a

534
00:39:55.400 --> 00:40:00.320
real match. I'm proud, m
h. I only like liked it.

535
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:06.599
It's but then I just you know, and then of course, you know,

536
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:07.360
you have to be glued to your
seats because you want it to end

537
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.880
so you can get to the main
event, which was Penta versus Moxley,

538
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:16.519
which ended ended quick too because of
the interference at the end. But what

539
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:22.559
the biggest takeaway was is how dangerous
and how terrifying penta sit down pile driver

540
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:27.639
really is. Yeah. I watched
Moxley's face hit the canvas on that pile

541
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:32.960
driver and squirmed. I was just
not a fan of watching that up close.

542
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:38.760
Like it was scary. Obviously,
I trust Penta obviously all that stuff,

543
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:43.159
but like Bret Hart did the same
thing to Steve Austin and it fun.

544
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:51.000
So I'm just saying, I'm just
saying, look, I love the

545
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:55.800
pile driver. It looks sick,
but like, come on now, not

546
00:40:55.880 --> 00:41:01.000
on TV, not on TV,
You're gonna kill yourself, cut yourself on

547
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:07.599
pay per view, right, So
that's that's the biggest takeaway. Also,

548
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:14.440
Eddie Kingston and Ortis were the main
event on Dark Elevation this week, and

549
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:20.159
Ortiz finally getting over this like like
came to blows with Eddie about the heel

550
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:22.599
stuff. Because Eddie's been doing some
like helish antics, like beating people up,

551
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.960
choking them out, doing all that
stuff. Ortiz finally stood up to

552
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:29.800
him. So I'm curious if that's
going to lead into anything on the main

553
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:35.920
roster, but I don't think so. M Another takeaways from Elevation Athena's O

554
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:39.920
face in person is sick and we
should always respect her for doing that move

555
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:51.280
right because they could kill anybody including
her. Frankie Kazarian still out here doing

556
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:54.159
Dark Elevation, so shout out to
him for chasing the check. Yeah for

557
00:41:54.239 --> 00:42:00.320
real getting that a w and pat
money all right, we love it,

558
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:05.480
We love it. Also, I
watched Dan Housen versus QT Marshall and thought

559
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:08.199
about you the entire time. Hey, all right, because the QT Marshall

560
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:15.679
mats all right Marshall and QT Marshall
fucking spit on Dan Housen's jacket and proceeded

561
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:22.639
to win. So yeah, all
right, QT Marshall victory. That's what

562
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:30.880
I'm talking about. Um yeah,
so need let's say it was a very

563
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:36.480
entertaining show, so we had a
good time. Um. I do want

564
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:39.840
to talk about one more thing.
So, and this is an AW really

565
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:46.159
this is just in general. So
lately I've been seeing like different things like

566
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:52.599
within the the wrestling ether and during
a w M. During AW they had

567
00:42:52.599 --> 00:43:00.159
this weird video package where the elite
kind of dissipated from their original pictures of

568
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:02.599
the inaugural press conference and all that
kind of stuff. Right, They had

569
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:08.280
some some vocals this this and that
whatever. But according to Twitter, their

570
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:12.480
speculation is that they're coming back.
They're coming back, just this and that,

571
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.880
which obviously leads people to ask the
question, what about punk? What

572
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:20.320
about punk? What about punk?
Well, I think your sources and my

573
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:23.480
sources are both out here saying the
same thing, wherein it's pretty obvious that

574
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:29.079
they're working on a buyout for the
remaining like for the remaining time on his

575
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:35.760
deal. And the follow up question
that I constantly see to see in the

576
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:39.480
rhetoric is well, does that mean
that Triple H would welcome him back?

577
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:43.039
And I want to do a little
role play here before we close out.

578
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:45.760
Where you are, Papa H?
And you got to make the call on

579
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:53.280
Phil? What are you doing?
What are you doing? I'm signing Phil

580
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:59.239
Brooks come on back, buddy,
And how do you book him? No?

581
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:01.800
But how do you book him?
You are the WW creative manager,

582
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:07.920
mister Monday Night. How are you
booking Phil Brooks's comeback? When he's he

583
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:12.480
coming back? That's the question.
Well, let's say let's say that hurt

584
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:15.239
hurt, right, Yeah, well, okay, let's hurt. Let's say

585
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:21.360
the buyout happens and the clearance happens
all after mania around like money in the

586
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:30.159
bank time and like may are you
saving that for SummerSlam? Yeah? Is

587
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:31.079
he a part or is he a
part timer? Or is he a full

588
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:37.320
time or is he a brock Lessner
deal? Um? That would be up

589
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:42.079
to him because you know, truly, if he wants the brock Lessener deal,

590
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:44.440
I'll give him a brock Lesser deal. If he wants to be full

591
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:47.039
time, he can be full time. That's totally up to him. Okay,

592
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:50.960
what do you want to do?
Okay, I feel like there's some

593
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:54.199
Saudi potential and see him punk as
well? Yeah yeah, yeah, he

594
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:58.519
might want to rock them shows too. Get an extra check, right,

595
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:01.159
That's what I'm saying, Like you
know, and knowing what we know about

596
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:05.159
see him punk, I'm sure he
would take that check, right, you

597
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:08.559
know, chase the bag, you
know it, despite whoever he has to

598
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:12.679
wrestle, which if you had to
book a couple like matches that you would

599
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.440
consider kind of like dreamish matches for
him, Like who would be the first

600
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:20.719
person you put them against? Like
Rollins maybe like, oh yeah, that's

601
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:22.639
the first name that popped in my
mind. Seth Robins. Okay, because

602
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:29.039
I tell you now that the mic
work between them two, because Seth Rollins

603
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:31.679
be on his ship sometime. He
ain't got no problem mentioned that a w

604
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:36.880
or anybody over there where you like
he will get. So I think the

605
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:39.800
promos between them would be great,
Like if I had to go like a

606
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:45.000
list, it would be Rollins.
I don't think i'd put him with Roman

607
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:50.239
until I think Roman out worrying about
Roman yet, So we get through all

608
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:58.519
this title bloodline thing Rhodes, I
definitely want something with him and Cody.

609
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:00.840
Okay, bad, I ain't get
that in aw so let me get that

610
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:05.960
here. He'll pump versus a baby
faced code. I rock with that,

611
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:12.239
Okay, And then like I want
to see Ko versus brooks On on the

612
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:16.760
mic more than that. Yeah,
Like there's a lot like if he came

613
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:22.239
back, there is a like a
few matches there. I wouldn't mind seeing

614
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:28.480
him versus Gumfort, like just to
see that dynamic, Like I would love

615
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:31.679
to see that. I'd be about
it. I wouldn't mind the hell he'll

616
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:36.320
see him punk kind of taken on
the New Day either. Oh yeah,

617
00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:38.920
given the KOFEE relationship, given a
couple of things, like, I feel

618
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:44.639
like there's a lot of potential there
too. Yeah, all this will probably

619
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:49.239
never fucking happen. Like, I
would be shocked, okay if he would

620
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.079
go back, because I honestly and
truly I think he'd be more him than

621
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:55.199
Triple. Ah. I don't really
think Triple has got that big of a

622
00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:59.159
fucking problem with the dude. Like, I know they had their issues,

623
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:01.480
but I don't think is that's serious
where a trip was be like, nah,

624
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:06.079
you can't come back. I don't
even think like nah, I don't

625
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:08.159
like that much that you can't come
back. Nah. I don't even think

626
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:13.199
it's that deep on his end.
I think the deepness is on Punk's end.

627
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:16.800
It's always been on his end,
getting the getting determination papers, the

628
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:21.599
day of his wedding and all that
stuff. It's always on his end.

629
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.159
So if that's why, I'm like, I would be shot if he would

630
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:29.119
go back, because I feel like
if he really truly wanted to go back,

631
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:31.519
he'd probably been back already. He
probably would have went Darre instead,

632
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:37.960
aid w like he probably would have
tried it. Like, so I would

633
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:42.199
be totally shot if if Triple H
could pull it off a booker of the

634
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:47.119
Year, because I think that's just
one of those things where I think Punk

635
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:52.800
would go to impact before he goed
that we I think you would really shoot

636
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:59.880
this shot over there or just retire, yeah, completely before going back,

637
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:02.840
before willing to go back. But
with Vince not being there, I know

638
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:08.559
that that changes things. So I
mean, like I said, I don't

639
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:12.880
think it's too deep on Triple h
Is end. So if he's willing to

640
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.760
sit down and talk the Triple Late, I'm sure Triple Lates could talk him

641
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:19.320
into it. I'm sure if he's
sat if they actually just sat down and

642
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:22.800
talk things out, I'm sure he'd
come back because I'm sure they could smooth

643
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:29.440
everything over. Sure. Yeah.
So I'm thinking that if anybody could pull

644
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:30.920
it off, it would be those
two. But they have to sit down,

645
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:35.800
right down. I think the money
potential is just too great for them

646
00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:42.079
to not at least consider the move. Because, unfortunately for people in the

647
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:47.800
wrestling community, in the online wrestling
community specifically, Seampunk always draws right as

648
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:51.519
long as he's as long as he
draws, he'll always have a place in

649
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:55.360
pro wrestling sphere and if I'm WWE, it's like, yeah, why wouldn't

650
00:48:55.360 --> 00:49:00.840
I want to try to capitalize on
that, right, Like you know,

651
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:06.079
could you imagine um called a personality
hitting at WrestleMania at after Roman defense,

652
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:10.000
after Roman win defends the title successfully
and all that's like call a personality hit,

653
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:15.320
Oh my god, that should be
crazy. Like that's what I'm saying.

654
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:19.400
Like I just I think about the
potential for like when the best time

655
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.039
for him to come back would be, And it's just it always kind of

656
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:24.360
leads back into Mania, because if
you're gonna ever gonna be Roman versus Cmpunk,

657
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:28.639
it has to be that long awaited
Mania main event. Even if he

658
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:34.280
loses, it's that's all he's ever
wanted, right, Yeah, So you

659
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:37.199
give him that as his farewell send
off. And even if it's just the

660
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:39.360
year of Punk and he's only there
for a year and you get the various

661
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:43.920
fews that you want out of it, I think it's worth the investment given

662
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:50.239
the merch alone that you're gonna move
exactly. So say what you will about

663
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:58.199
the guy. But I seem to
have upon recollection. I have three Yeah,

664
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:05.519
I have three cm punk t shirt. So mm hmm. UM,

665
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:08.480
so there's this. It's just what
it is, you know, but hopefully

666
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:14.159
it happens. Hopefully this this upcoming
week in wrestling provides more information on the

667
00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:17.679
Elite and they're awareabouts. Um,
I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see

668
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:22.440
the Elite until full gear, not
even just competing, just maybe they show

669
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:27.440
up in the crowd, you know, like they do at NXT shows.

670
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:35.800
Yeah, but I honestly wouldn't be
surprised they just brought them back next week

671
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:38.199
and said, Hey, we're gonna
put you in a trio's title match.

672
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:45.840
There you go, go get your
belts back right, Like I would be

673
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:51.599
surprised if that just happened. And
just like Hi Pop, that's all Like

674
00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:58.760
that guy taken els to everybody.
Bro just can't catch a break. I

675
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:01.239
just I don't know. To me, personally, nothing in aw none of

676
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:06.480
their problems will be solved until they
get a new home for the ROH stuff.

677
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:10.239
Personally, get that shit off my
Dynamite room, keep it on Rampage

678
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:15.599
and Dart please. Although I will
say that Dalton Castle on aw felt right,

679
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:20.920
didn't it It felt right? He
just he is such a star and

680
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:24.360
it hurts me that he can't be
that on cable. You know what I

681
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:30.840
mean, right. I just find
him so unique and so fun to watch,

682
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:34.280
and that match last week against Jericho
was really fun and really good.

683
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.719
So it is what it is.
We rock with our boy, with our

684
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:44.440
boy Dalton Castle on this pod,
so do. But anyway, Javan is

685
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:46.039
a quick rundown, quick rundown,
just a couple of things I wanted to

686
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:51.480
talk about this, this and that. Obviously we'll be back sometime this week

687
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:54.039
with some more in depth content and
stuff, but I just wanted to touch

688
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:58.440
base and kind of talk about some
things and a few takeaways I had from

689
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:01.199
from a you and stuff. So
thank you for the time, my friend,

690
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:07.119
No problem, No problem. Hopefully
boss Man will be not doing homework

691
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:10.440
or whatever the hell he's doing in
Hey. I don't know, but I

692
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:14.880
know that we're here for the people
because we love our fans. We do.

693
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:22.480
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694
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:24.840
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695
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696
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:30.840
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697
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:35.800
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698
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:39.639
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699
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700
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